The Apple Allergy Showdown: Older Dads Vs. Mothers Instinct! : Episode 31 Part 2

0:00 I think when you're in your 40s, I think the ravages of time have just started to show up and you really start to feel it. But you also have a lot of things figured out for the first time in your life. I know for me, because I'm a very, as you would know by the fact that I just became a parent, I'm a late bloomer. So it took me until my 40s to figure out some of the more basic things about life. So it's like a, it's an okay trade. You wouldn't trade in your 40s, you wouldn't trade, you wouldn't trade places with a 30 year old. No. And because 30s was, but now that we're in the back half of 50s, you start to go, you start to, it's not that you resent young people, but you just, I think you have less.

0:44 I know me, I have less patience with young people sometimes. This is the gray hair and daycare podcast with a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ rate in that same range, your hosts, Frank Cereo and Carlo Russo. So now this is one we have not done in a while because I think the amount of effort that we put in to always being correct, but we are going to move right into, I was wrong. So I was wrong this time.

1:24 What do we got? It was about, we talked about last time, baby led weaning and the whole, how we're giving her the solid food and letting her play with the food and that stuff. So it really, this is one that I left some information out that is important. Kelly helped us out with this and then there was also something that I was a little bit wrong on because I said like, you can't, you don't season the food at all. You can include spices, but no added salt or added sugar. Makes sense. But if you want to put some, I don't know, cayenne pepper, some other stuff, you can do that stuff. The other thing was just kind of more context.

2:04 So right now we're at six months and she gets the big chunks of food or spoonfuls of stuff. Once she gets to nine months, then you can give her cubes and I asked, why would you do that? And of course my lovely wife knew the answer and that is right now she has a palmer grasp, which means if she grabs something, she's grabbing it with her whole hand and by nine months, she will be able to have a pincer grasp and grab little things. So that's, so as she gets closer to nine months, when she starts developing a little bit more fine motor skill, then you go to little cubes of whatever.

2:47 What was the first one called? Palmer. I still have the palmer grab when I see food. I haven't learned it. That's it. So a palmer grip as opposed to a pincer grip. At nine months, she'll be, she'll be doing. You can get her smaller little pieces. Exactly. We can give her little cubes of cheese, little, yeah, perchetta, whatever it is. So you were wrong. Why? I just, I left out the nine month thing and the spices, I said no spices, but you can have some spices. We're getting good though. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty. Even, even Kelly said you weren't really wrong, but you could, but you said I was looking for it.

3:30 I'm like, we need to, we need to count. I was thinking there's all these other countries that love spices. They're eating spices. I don't care. Yep. That's right. Those kids in Bangladesh are getting, I mean, India's not going to eat. I'm not putting any spices. They're getting, they're getting some stuff. He's got the pincer. We got to wait, we got to wait before we throw that stuff out. That's interesting. That's interesting. So that was, so that was, that was our very minimal, but it was our, I was wrong. And now we return to what just happened with the conclusion of episode 31. So then, so she leaves the room and, and I said to her, I'm like, look, first off, like we have to be, we got to be lined up.

4:16 We have to be in alignment before we have the conversation with the doctor. And it's once, I mean, you can't just throw things out the window one time. Well, I, so, so then, and then I started asking more questions. I'm like, well, when was, when did that happen with her back? The picture, the second picture that you showed her, oh, that was two days later. I'm like, well, you didn't tell her that. Yeah. You made it seem like. So she made it, so she presented it like, here's the hives that happened immediately after when in reality she had given her apple as we're talking more and I'm asking more questions. We had given her apple for lunch.

4:57 There was nothing. We gave her apple again for dinner, and then we noticed the thing on the neck, so we didn't give her anymore. And then two days later, there was the thing on her back. And I'm sure she was eating other things two days in. Yeah. Yep. And so there was all this evidence in the kind of, in the, it could be something else category, but if I hadn't spoken up, we would have just been like, yeah, no more apples cut down the trees and, you know, I mean, if that's the case, it's the case, but I would like, like, just let's, let's be a little more scientific about it.

5:37 Let's see what's up because there's any number of things that, that, that could have been. And you know, so, you know, we had a long talk and it was difficult because I think, you know, Kelly in that moment is, and I, we were having a long, some somewhat difficult conversation about, well, I don't understand why it's so difficult. We're pointing out these things like typically an allergic reaction to a food happens within minutes. It's usually around their mouth, their tongue. If it's hives, it looks like hives, not just a little irritation somewhere. It doesn't happen two days later. There's all these things. And I asked her, I'm like, after we had talked about all these other countervailing issues, where are you at now percentage wise of thinking that she's allergic to apple, 80%.

6:30 And I was like, I don't feel like you're listening to me at all. Help me understand how after everything we've talked about that, that you're still there. And she said, I don't want to answer because I think you'll be mad. I don't know. I won't be mad. I want to understand. Yeah. You want the same information she's working with. I just want to understand why. And she said, I feel like I'm not listening because I feel like you're not listening to me. And I said, well, does, does that sound real? Like, does that make sense? And she was like, well, no, you know, basically, well, no, but, and I think it's, it's difficult, right?

7:12 Like I, my, nobody's ever a hundred percent alignment on everything, but I don't like I listen, but I listen, but I also ask questions and I'm okay. The idea is not for one of us to be right or the idea is for us to together, like try to come up with, to come up with the best answer. Right. And so that's what, that's what I'm going for. And, and we kind of went back and forth. And I think we got to a better place where we're better prepared. And since then, lo and behold, we've kind of continued along the path with no apple and little things are happening on her skin just the same way.

7:55 Right. And I think we're, we're moving, we've, we've moved down the road to, yeah, it's probably not that. So we're going to, what we decided to do was kind of get a baseline with seeing what's going on with her skin. And then once we really have that with no other new foods, I try some other apple and have the baby Benadryl there in case she does have a reaction, but, and then hopefully, and honestly, like if I was a betting man, I would bet very heavily on, she's not allergic. And I remember I used to be allergic to garlic. Oh really? I would eat garlic and I would break out and I was like, I can eat the heck out of garlic now.

8:35 It just comes. I mean, to her credit, the PA said that too. She's like, sometimes they come, allergies come and go. Yeah. I did the same thing. Believe it or not. And I wish I was still allergic to this alcohol. I would turn bright red and have hives. Yup. Really? I mean, I touched the beer, glass of wine. That's interesting. I always tell the story of my, I was like 13, 14 years old and we were at the doctors and we were done with the physical and all that good stuff. And my mother goes in Italian, tell, ask the doctor why every time I drink wine, I break out and I'm like, I'm 13 mom. I don't think I should be asking the doctor why every time my parents give me alcohol, I break out.

9:20 That is fantastic. And the doctor was like, what were you saying? She wants to know why. When they give me wine, why do I stumble? And then she goes, what Sprite or seven up at the time. And I'm like, daddy, she makes us spritzer. So yeah. So the doctor was like, Mrs. Russo, you should not be giving him wine at all, but he'll probably grow out of that. He'll grow out of it. But that was, I thought that was fantastic. I remember that like it was yesterday. Yeah. No, yeah. They come and go and stuff, but there's so many possibilities, right? And they might be right. Yup. The last thing I would want, then I'm reading all this stuff and honestly, then you start second guessing yourself.

10:00 Cause I'm like, okay, what is, where does this happen? Very uncommon. One in 20 kids is allergic to apples. Most of them are in Europe and they're in a part of Europe where it's very common that the apple trees cross pollinate with white birch trees. That's what they're probably allergic to. And but what's in my, these are apples. The apples we gave her were from my apple trees and what do I have 40 feet away from those trees? And then I'm thinking, oh my God, I'm going to end up being wrong. And then I'm never going to like, I'll, I'll never be able to make another decision. Well, you're kind of wrong. It's your, your backyard wrong. Right. That's why we're going to try with other, other people. We're going to try with other people than apples.

10:40 And again, I mean, obviously, yes, she could be, but majority of baby food is apples. That's what they, right? You go down to the store, you're going to see a bunch of apple sauces and apple things for kids. No. And I really didn't like that. And the other thing was when I started asking questions and this girl is like, well, let's, let's see. Cause I asked her, we were talking about her weight and I'm, and I'm looking at it thinking, okay, she was 85th and 16th percent or 85th and 23rd and now she's 83rd and 16th. Right. So I'm like, so we don't go back now. Now that we're at six months, we don't go back for, for three months now. We don't go back until she's nine months. So I just asked, I'm like, so over three, over the next three months, how much should she gain?

11:23 And she's like, well, let's look and do a Google search. I'm like, look, uh, you, do you want to go to medical school? Like I can, you know, this right off the top, like I can Google it. You're supposed to be the content expert and you're going to show me how to use Google. Like, come on, sweetie. I don't like the jumping to inclusions and I like, I, you look at one picture now again, she could have been given better information, right? My, Kelly didn't say, and this happened 48 hours later, she said she saw this big blotch on her back and some stuff on her neck, like we touched her with an apple and this happened. No, that's not what happened. And so, yeah, the main thing is we've got to, we've got to feel good about the questions we're asking and the information we're providing or you can't trust the answer that you get back.

12:10 I'm confused. Why? Cause I know Kelly's very smart. Yeah. Why she left off like this was 48 hours later. That was part of our discussion. Okay. And I think, I'm just saying, I know she's a brilliant woman. Maybe she just, there's a certain level of, I think, I love you Kelly. You know, I say it all the time. My wife is a brilliant woman. I don't throw that. I don't know. Smarter than us. Our wives are better. I don't, yeah. We have, I don't throw that, I don't throw that word around a lot. Like I don't know anybody else who I've said is brilliant in my life. She is. She's brilliant. She's a brilliant woman. But I also think that what comes along with that is a small side of being wildly uncomfortable with being wrong.

12:58 Right. I think part of knowing you're not the smartest person in the room all the time is being comfortable with being wrong. Right. Right. It's like, okay, I think this is right, but I'm not going to be surprised or hurt if I'm wrong. So it is a different level of comfort. And I think, I think that, I think sometimes she may have a more of a challenge with that because she's probably wrong a lot less than you and me. Absolutely. Makes sense. Yeah. So I think, I think that, that might be, that might've been part of it. But so anyways, that was a little, a bit of a challenge, but all's well that ends well. We haven't, we'll, you'll have to look forward to another episode to find out how the Apple test goes.

13:41 I feel horrible. I brought an apple pie over. I'll eat it. I'll eat it. That was another thing. I'm like, I'm, I'm doing all this reading. It's like, also, if they're allergic to apples, it's also highly likely that they're allergic to stone fruit. And we'd just been given her piles of peaches off our tree and just nothing. Yeah. And I'm like, come on. Like this is, there were so many checks. But again, you guys are new parents. We are. We are new parents. And everything is heightened. Every, every little thing you see. That's the other thing. I think that is the biggest factor with Kelly is she doesn't want to make a single mistake. She doesn't want, she doesn't want to make a mistake.

14:22 I know. And that's a big part of that. I mean, does she think like, yes, we are older, but we should be smarter because we are older. So less mistakes. She just, she just doesn't want to make a mistake. And I think that's the point. Like that was one of the points I was trying to make was there's more than one way to make a mistake. Yeah. If we eliminate apples. That could be a mistake too. We're not going to do any harm to her from an apple, but down the road when she can only have hot water to drink, we're, you know, we're going to be in trouble. So it was a challenge. It was challenging. But again, but again, sometimes we do go to these professionals and take their word. And at this same professionals are looking at a Google.

15:02 Well, yeah. Like we're talking about baby led weaning. Now I have my, one of my employees did it. Other people I've talked to know about it. Obviously Kelly discovered it in her reading. This woman had no idea what I was talking about. And I thought that was also, you know, you don't really, you don't really know. So we're back to, I don't trust anybody. So we're looking forward to the answer to the question of how much. So in the next three months she should put on between one and three pounds. Oh, okay. It slows down a lot. At this point. I thought it would be more too. So we had that. That was exciting. We had my birthday dinner. We went out to dinner. What'd you guys do? We went to Delmonico's Steakhouse and it was, it was fun.

15:44 We went out, we sat down, we had a little table. We're next to a booth in the booth. It was a mother and her son and the son was older than us, so she had to be in her eighties. Sure. It was cute. It was like a 65 year old guy and his mom having dinner before they go to the SU game. They had their SU stuff on. She had her SU stuff on. And of course she sees the baby and she looks, how old? Six months. And then she's sitting there and she looks over and how old is she? Six months, just a little over six months. She asked like three times how old the baby was. And she's like, she's very observant. I think she's going to be highly intelligent.

16:25 And I looked at her and I said, I think you're right. You're absolutely right. 100%. You're a very astute. Do you know this family? That is an astute observation, ma'am. But it was cute. And then she was getting the attention from the adjoining tables. The fun thing was there she had her first, she had a big hunk of piece of ciabatta bread and she liked that. Not allergic to that. She had a wrist full of that and she was gnawing on that pretty good. She had the palmer grip on that one. She had her palmer grip. But we had the interaction with the cute old lady for my birthday dinner. Shout out to Delmonico's, huh? It was good. It's always good. You know, what did we have? We had something new this time. Oh yeah? I hadn't had it before. It was like a sausage stuffed pepper appetizer and it was very good.

17:10 That sounds good. Very good. And I had a Delmonico. Of course. And Kelly had, she always gets lasagna wherever we go. Really? She got a lot, but that lasagna, she had it for dinner and then we split the rest for lunch the next day. It was big, but it was very good. Delmonico's is a good restaurant. I like them. You've been out to dinner, right? With the baby? Yes. Yes. We had been to Delmonico's for Father's Day. Oh, I thought you said because for Father's Day they give all the fathers a gift certificate for another meal. Which I redeemed on my birthday. Absolutely. It was awesome. So how was it with the baby? I mean, she's, you know. I mean, the first time we were in a booth kind of in the back and she was in her little car carrier thing.

17:53 This time she was in a high chair and hanging out, doing that stuff and she was good. Isn't it cool though? And we're like, okay, wait a minute. We're back in restaurants. Yeah. I got that back. We're getting this back. It's fun. You know, like I said before, prior episodes, you feel like everything's gone when you have that baby. Yes. I'll never be normal again. See, I look at it the other eye and I'm like, no, I have to do that again. Like, I'm fine with it. Like, I'm completely okay. No, but we love restaurants. No, yeah. It's going out to dinner. It's nice. And it is, there is something about it. You're going around with a baby. People just light up. Absolutely. Like people constantly, they see babies and they just, they make everybody happy. And the more alert the babies are. And if they interact.

18:33 They interact and all that. Even more so. It's fun. It was fun. So we had that. Then we have all these birthdays. So it's like me, then you, then my sister, her birthday. We had my sister and her husband over for dinner and birthday cake. Okay. And Kelly made this short ribs in, or on top of a pumpkin puree. Oh my goodness. Short rib. It was delicious. Fantastic. She had the last of it today for leftovers, but it's very, very good. So we had that. And then we got, I got a cake for my sister's birthday and it was fun because it's been a while since they were here and we had a meal and baby Josie was hamming it up.

19:17 She was like, Oh, that's the best. It was. She was having the best time. Like I've never, I haven't seen it. She's like, she, she's always engaging and does it, but she was clearly like just going to town and had my sister in stitches and my brother-in-law was taking videos. It was super cute. Josie was sitting there having conversations, talking. She was all kinds of noises and smiling. Don't you love them when they do that, the little voices come, Oh my God. It's so much fun. It was very, very cool. We had the first use of, so now we go to Wegmans for groceries every Sunday. We go to Mass, after Mass, we go get groceries and we've been using it. We keep her in her car carrier and they have the special carts that have the red thing.

20:01 You put the car carrier right on there. Well, but now she's big enough. We had her in the high chair at Delmonico's. Now she can go in the cart, but there's this thing and I will call it out because it is a fun product, but I also have a problem with it and it is called the Icopuca, I-C-O-P-U-C-A. Icopuca shopping cart cover for baby, two in one cart cover for babies and high chairs. So it basically is like a plush cover that you put in the shopping cart so they're not on the metal and plastic and it makes it all comfy for her. So we busted that out this last Sunday and put it in there and she was very comfy and it worked really well.

20:46 It's nice. It's pink. It's super cute. And it elevates the level of attention that the kid gets in the grocery store. If you miss the baby, you're going to see it now. There's a little baby on a pink cloud. But this really does bother me. I look down and I'm like, what's this? And right in front of you and where the baby is, is the clear plastic sleeve where you're supposed to put the phone for the kid to be able to see this. Oh, stop. Seriously. I thought it was like for you to hold. I could see if it was a whole phone holder for me, maybe it would be off. No, it's right in front of the kid, pointed at the kid. Yeah, it's your TV. Literally. And I thought, wow, everybody knows how bad that is.

21:30 It's so bad for the kids. So a little disappointed in the Aiko Puka people. Bad, bad. Take that thing out of there. It's not good for the kids, but otherwise good product. So we did that. I was not excited about the phone holder. And then also this, so that same weekend we had our parish picnic. Oh, really? It was nice. It was right up the road here because we live, where we live is our parish is two churches. So there's Sacred Heart where we go and Divine Mercy, which is North and Central Square. And our pastor has both of those churches and we're exactly halfway.

22:11 So they had the... The park right up the road from our house. They had... Which is so nice to be that close. Yeah, the parish picnic. So we went down for that and it was fun. Was it like a barbecue kind of thing? They did a barbecue and then they had an ice cream truck show up and everybody got a ticket so you could get an ice cream. And they had games for the kids and all that. It was cute. It was very nice. We saw some familiar faces, a lot of people that we didn't know from Divine Mercy. But what was fun about it was we kind of got the wagon out and found a little spot and had our folding chairs. And more so than I've ever noticed it before, probably because she's not around a lot, Baby Josie was super interested in all the other kids.

22:55 The kids that were playing, she was watching and looking. So I can see next year it's going to be a whole different ball game. But it was nice. It was a really nice event. It seemed like it was a good turnout. Father, as he came over and said hello and a little more serious. I like your church. I remember my church used to be like that. And I went to my church, which is in Syracuse, last week and I'll tell you, there's just no one there. There's no one there. And it was tough. I'll tell you this. The place used to be packed. You know. Yeah. Pompeii used to be packed. Yeah. And I would imagine at the holidays it must still get like that. Sure, but not as like it was. You know, I was thinking about that. I was reading an article about how there's all these kind of lapsed Catholics, lots of people that only go on Christmas and Easter.

23:40 Right, the holiday Catholics. And like, what do you do to get the people who do show up to keep coming back? Because it is. It's amazing how many people show up. But I will say, after everything that happened like this past Sunday, there were more people. Like I know there were more people in church. When you have situations, that's why my son called me after, you know, the whole situation with Charlie. And he goes, let's go to church. And I mean, we go as much as we can. But you know, I'm always on the road and it's easy to make excuses in life.

24:21 And you were talking about, I don't know if we were talking about this on this podcast or before the cameras went out, you were talking about finding time to work out again. And when you're in the bad part of your health, you always find excuses. I have no time. I'm busy. Church is the same way. When you're not in your religious mode, you always find, I'm too busy, I'm out of town, my kids are young, my kids are too old, no one wants to go. And then when you finally figure out and do it, you're like, oh, there's plenty of time to fit things that you want to do. It's interesting because I was, you know, for years and years and years, decades, I didn't go to church.

25:07 And when I started, it was literally, I would have those thoughts of, well, but once I go, then if I don't go, I'm gonna feel guilty all this time. But I did it. And in the beginning, it was work. It was hard. And now, thank goodness, I am at a place where it's just like, we haven't missed it since the baby. The baby has been to church every week since she was four weeks old without missing. And it's just now, it is like, it's now muscle memory. It's just habit. This is what we do. And I enjoy it. And I hope I never miss, right?

25:53 There's something in my psychology that works for me that when I'm on a roll, I want to stay on a roll. So I hope I don't run it. I hope I can just keep going. I know there's gonna be something that keeps me from going. But right now, it just, in a way that it never was for me in my whole life, it is a part of my life. It speaks to you now. It does. It grabs you. It makes sense. Absolutely. And you're getting so much out of it. I know it's, I get something out of it. I know it's good for my marriage. I know it's good for my daughter. And that just makes me want to do it more.

26:34 And then since I started volunteering, just always being able to contribute in some small way, right? Like, I'm not doing anything crazy. I'm collecting, you know, doing the collection or greeting people. One of the best times that I can remember in the church was when my wife and I, at separate times, was going through our adult confirmation, because we didn't do it at 15, 16. And we got to know the people that worked there and the priest one-on-one. We were friends with Father and the deacons. And it became this, like you said, it was like a no-miss, like, I got to go, I want to be there.

27:18 I want to see my friends. I want to see. And then at the same time, God's working His magic, right? He's working His magic going, I'll get you here, my son. And once I got you here, you're going to realize, oh, this is where I need to be. Even when we go to your church and we see all the people, it's so great. There's something about going to my church, because there's so much. My kids love it. So it's hard to leave your parish. It is. Even though sometimes it's, you know, obviously if they close, it's easier, because then you can go, okay, it wasn't me. I have to find a new place. But seeing that it's still around, it's hard for us to say, I'm going to go to yours or I'm going to go there.

28:04 There's so much history there. It's tough, because you have so many memories and history. You have to remember, I mean, when I came to America, that was the first church we went to. So we got our first communions and all that stuff, and then marriage, and you were married. I mean, yeah, so it's tough. It's tough to change, but it's also tough to see that nobody's going to this particular place anymore where it used to be packed. Well, I think you should just put that in your rear view mirror and come to our church from now on. I mean, we love your church, too. It really, honestly, Fatherside is doing, we're so lucky to have him. And that matters. Yep. He is making a difference, and I see it, and I have a lot of respect for him.

28:44 It's really nice. He really, he's what that parish needs, and it's been nice to see it. And it's nice that you do. You get a sense of community. You start getting to know people and seeing them in the same faces. I mean, that's what church is, community, right? Yeah. So, but part of me is like, well, the reason why there's no one here anymore is because everybody's doing that. They're leaving to go to other churches, and it's like, am I going to now be that person, too, to now make this more empty? I don't know. It's a struggle, but the things that our families do, we love to go to other churches. You know, for Easter, we might go here for, you know, different things.

29:24 Christmas, we might go to a different place. But, you know, Midnight Mass in Pompeii is, there's no other. I mean, it's so gorgeous, but it is what it is, but. Yeah, it is a beautiful church. Yeah. Our Lady of Pompeii is beautiful. Yeah, so we went to the parish picnic. Yeah. That was good stuff. I did have a first, so I'm constantly with the music, singing to her and playing different songs. Yeah. And we kind of have taken a little bit of a diversion. I started playing bluesier stuff for it. Oh, you changed it up. So I put on some Ray Charles and some Shake Your Tail Feather. And what was the other one that I did?

30:06 She likes Sam Cooke. I've been playing lots of Sam Cooke for her. But for the first time, I played my guitar for her. I was just like, we had some time to kill. Kelly was on her way home. And I haven't touched my guitar since probably the last time I did a lullaby for the show. So I'm like, hey, we've never done this together. And she's staring at you. And I had her in her little high chair and I'm like, okay, we're going to do this. And she was immediately, she was fascinated. And she definitely has, I think she has in recent days, she has her version of dancing. It's mostly head movements. There's a lot of, there's a lot of this and smiling and there's some hand wave.

30:51 But yeah, the musical stuff, it's so much fun. And I'm constantly trying to like, no matter what it is, I'll have music going and I'll have her and I'll be like, kind of just tapping out the rhythms and always trying to sing harmonies and do stuff. There's a 4-4 time tap here. Exactly. Always telling her about, this is Bobby Bland. He played with B.B. King for many years. Like give her all the background, but it's like, yeah, she definitely, she seems to enjoy some of the kind of more fun bluesy stuff. She's going to have it in her blood. Literally, because when Kelly was pregnant, you were playing the guitar. It's so much fun. I enjoy that.

31:31 That is one of my favorite things to do with her, but she's fun all the time with all that stuff. But yeah, so I got that. That was my, that was our first time with the guitar. So I think I'm going to do more of that because of course, because I haven't played, I have no calluses and I'm weak. I was going to say, baby Josie only had to wait six and a half months to watch you play and Kelly waited for how many years before you played the guitar for her? A long time, yeah. Josie's waiting next. Yeah, she's waiting. I remember when you told Trina, Trina's like, what do you mean you haven't played for your wife? No. That's funny. Yeah, it is. That's funny. But so it's been a lot of fun. A lot of things happened. Yeah. A lot of good stuff. Lots of cool stuff.

32:12 Lots of exciting things. And then we have to look forward. This coming weekend, Uncle David and Auntie Gabe, Kelly's brother and his wife are coming to visit. Oh, cool. They've been really dedicated like every time they come visit and before they leave there because they're in Buffalo, they make the trip to see the baby and before they leave, they're planning the next time. It's really nice. That's nice. So we're going to get to see. They are. They're great. So we're looking forward to seeing them. But otherwise, we are all caught up. And now we have, this is the kind of riveting excitement of when we sign off, I get to walk over to the camera and see if it actually recorded any of this.

32:53 Well, we know this one's still on, right? That's what? Well, I know that one is. So that's why I'm talking to that one. This one, I can see. I'm not. I think it's going. I think it's going. If it isn't. Well, I would think, would the camera be on? Could we? I thought. Well, the other times it was shutting off. So I think it's still going. But I'm not 100% positive. That's all right. But if it isn't, you might on one of the other cameras hear Frank swear a lot and then hear a crunching sound when I destroy that thing. Well, we tried. But, you know, hopefully, hopefully it worked. I mean, I've only done 31 episodes. I know, 31, like from like the first four episodes, we had a really hard time with the video. Yeah, we didn't know what we were going to do. And the audio for that matter.

33:34 But since then, we've really had good luck. But holy cow. Actually, it's when you bought the new stuff. Yeah. I know. Now that we know, I just have to put an ice pack on the camera to make it not overheat. I just while you're talking, I'll just turn to see if the lights on. I haven't seen it. But I just look at the ice pack on a camera. Yeah. Fantastic. That's how we're doing things. Yeah. This is where we are. Baby steps. That's right. Literally. That's right. Baby steps. Quite literally. Well, thank you for making it all the way to the end once again. And we will see you next time. Well, folks. That's another episode of the gray hair and daycare podcast in the books. Thanks very much for tuning in and spending this time with us.

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