The Apple Allergy Showdown: Older Dads Vs. Mothers Instinct! : Episode 31 Part 2

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I think when you're in your 40s, I think the ravages of time have just started to show up and you really start to feel it.

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But you also have a lot of things figured out for the first time in your life.

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I know for me, because I'm a very, as you would know by the fact that I just became a parent, I'm a late bloomer.

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So it took me until my 40s to figure out some of the more basic things about life.

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So it's like a, it's an okay trade.

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You wouldn't trade in your 40s, you wouldn't trade, you wouldn't trade places with a 30 year old.

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No.

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And because 30s was, but now that we're in the back half of 50s, you start to go, you start to, it's not that you resent young people, but you just, I think you have less.

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I know me, I have less patience with young people sometimes.

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This is the gray hair and daycare podcast with a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ rate in that same range, your hosts, Frank Cereo and Carlo Russo.

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So now this is one we have not done in a while because I think the amount of effort that we put in to always being correct, but we are going to move right into, I was wrong.

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So I was wrong this time.

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What do we got?

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It was about, we talked about last time, baby led weaning and the whole, how we're giving her the solid food and letting her play with the food and that stuff.

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So it really, this is one that I left some information out that is important.

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Kelly helped us out with this and then there was also something that I was a little bit wrong on because I said like, you can't, you don't season the food at all.

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You can include spices, but no added salt or added sugar.

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Makes sense.

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But if you want to put some, I don't know, cayenne pepper, some other stuff, you can do that stuff.

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The other thing was just kind of more context.

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So right now we're at six months and she gets the big chunks of food or spoonfuls of stuff.

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Once she gets to nine months, then you can give her cubes and I asked, why would you do that?

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And of course my lovely wife knew the answer and that is right now she has a palmer grasp, which means if she grabs something, she's grabbing it with her whole hand and by nine months, she will be able to have a pincer grasp and grab little things.

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So that's, so as she gets closer to nine months, when she starts developing a little bit more fine motor skill, then you go to little cubes of whatever.

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What was the first one called?

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Palmer.

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I still have the palmer grab when I see food.

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I haven't learned it.

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That's it.

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So a palmer grip as opposed to a pincer grip.

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At nine months, she'll be, she'll be doing.

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You can get her smaller little pieces.

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Exactly.

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We can give her little cubes of cheese, little, yeah, perchetta, whatever it is.

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So you were wrong.

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Why?

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I just, I left out the nine month thing and the spices, I said no spices, but you can have some spices.

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We're getting good though.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's pretty.

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Even, even Kelly said you weren't really wrong, but you could, but you said I was looking for it.

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I'm like, we need to, we need to count.

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I was thinking there's all these other countries that love spices.

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They're eating spices.

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I don't care.

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Yep.

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That's right.

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Those kids in Bangladesh are getting, I mean, India's not going to eat.

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I'm not putting any spices.

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They're getting, they're getting some stuff.

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He's got the pincer.

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We got to wait, we got to wait before we throw that stuff out.

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That's interesting.

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That's interesting.

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So that was, so that was, that was our very minimal, but it was our, I was wrong.

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And now we return to what just happened with the conclusion of episode 31.

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So then, so she leaves the room and, and I said to her, I'm like, look, first off, like we have to be, we got to be lined up.

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We have to be in alignment before we have the conversation with the doctor.

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And it's once, I mean, you can't just throw things out the window one time.

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Well, I, so, so then, and then I started asking more questions.

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I'm like, well, when was, when did that happen with her back?

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The picture, the second picture that you showed her, oh, that was two days later.

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I'm like, well, you didn't tell her that.

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Yeah.

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You made it seem like.

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So she made it, so she presented it like, here's the hives that happened immediately after when in reality she had given her apple as we're talking more and I'm asking more questions.

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We had given her apple for lunch.

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There was nothing.

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We gave her apple again for dinner, and then we noticed the thing on the neck, so we didn't give her anymore.

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And then two days later, there was the thing on her back.

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And I'm sure she was eating other things two days in.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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And so there was all this evidence in the kind of, in the, it could be something else category, but if I hadn't spoken up, we would have just been like, yeah, no more apples cut down the trees and, you know, I mean, if that's the case, it's the case, but I would like, like, just let's, let's be a little more scientific about it.

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Let's see what's up because there's any number of things that, that, that could have been.

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And you know, so, you know, we had a long talk and it was difficult because I think, you know, Kelly in that moment is, and I, we were having a long, some somewhat difficult conversation about, well, I don't understand why it's so difficult.

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We're pointing out these things like typically an allergic reaction to a food happens within minutes.

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It's usually around their mouth, their tongue.

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If it's hives, it looks like hives, not just a little irritation somewhere.

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It doesn't happen two days later.

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There's all these things.

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And I asked her, I'm like, after we had talked about all these other countervailing issues, where are you at now percentage wise of thinking that she's allergic to apple, 80%.

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And I was like, I don't feel like you're listening to me at all.

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Help me understand how after everything we've talked about that, that you're still there.

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And she said, I don't want to answer because I think you'll be mad.

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I don't know.

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I won't be mad.

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I want to understand.

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Yeah.

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You want the same information she's working with.

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I just want to understand why.

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And she said, I feel like I'm not listening because I feel like you're not listening to me.

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And I said, well, does, does that sound real?

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Like, does that make sense?

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And she was like, well, no, you know, basically, well, no, but, and I think it's, it's difficult, right?

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Like I, my, nobody's ever a hundred percent alignment on everything, but I don't like I listen, but I listen, but I also ask questions and I'm okay.

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The idea is not for one of us to be right or the idea is for us to together, like try to come up with, to come up with the best answer.

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Right.

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And so that's what, that's what I'm going for.

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And, and we kind of went back and forth.

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And I think we got to a better place where we're better prepared.

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And since then, lo and behold, we've kind of continued along the path with no apple and little things are happening on her skin just the same way.

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Right.

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And I think we're, we're moving, we've, we've moved down the road to, yeah, it's probably not that.

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So we're going to, what we decided to do was kind of get a baseline with seeing what's going on with her skin.

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And then once we really have that with no other new foods, I try some other apple and have the baby Benadryl there in case she does have a reaction, but, and then hopefully, and honestly, like if I was a betting man, I would bet very heavily on, she's not allergic.

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And I remember I used to be allergic to garlic.

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Oh really?

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I would eat garlic and I would break out and I was like, I can eat the heck out of garlic now.

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It just comes.

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I mean, to her credit, the PA said that too.

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She's like, sometimes they come, allergies come and go.

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Yeah.

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I did the same thing.

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Believe it or not.

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And I wish I was still allergic to this alcohol.

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I would turn bright red and have hives.

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Yup.

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Really?

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I mean, I touched the beer, glass of wine.

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That's interesting.

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I always tell the story of my, I was like 13, 14 years old and we were at the doctors and we were done with the physical and all that good stuff.

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And my mother goes in Italian, tell, ask the doctor why every time I drink wine, I break out and I'm like, I'm 13 mom.

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I don't think I should be asking the doctor why every time my parents give me alcohol, I break out.

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That is fantastic.

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And the doctor was like, what were you saying?

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She wants to know why.

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When they give me wine, why do I stumble?

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And then she goes, what Sprite or seven up at the time.

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And I'm like, daddy, she makes us spritzer.

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So yeah.

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So the doctor was like, Mrs. Russo, you should not be giving him wine at all, but he'll probably grow out of that.

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He'll grow out of it.

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But that was, I thought that was fantastic.

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I remember that like it was yesterday.

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Yeah.

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No, yeah.

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They come and go and stuff, but there's so many possibilities, right?

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And they might be right.

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Yup.

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The last thing I would want, then I'm reading all this stuff and honestly, then you start second guessing yourself.

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Cause I'm like, okay, what is, where does this happen?

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Very uncommon.

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One in 20 kids is allergic to apples.

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Most of them are in Europe and they're in a part of Europe where it's very common that the apple trees cross pollinate with white birch trees.

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That's what they're probably allergic to.

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And but what's in my, these are apples.

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The apples we gave her were from my apple trees and what do I have 40 feet away from those trees?

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And then I'm thinking, oh my God, I'm going to end up being wrong.

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And then I'm never going to like, I'll, I'll never be able to make another decision.

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Well, you're kind of wrong.

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It's your, your backyard wrong.

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Right.

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That's why we're going to try with other, other people.

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We're going to try with other people than apples.

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And again, I mean, obviously, yes, she could be, but majority of baby food is apples.

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That's what they, right?

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You go down to the store, you're going to see a bunch of apple sauces and apple things for kids.

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No.

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And I really didn't like that.

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And the other thing was when I started asking questions and this girl is like, well, let's, let's see.

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Cause I asked her, we were talking about her weight and I'm, and I'm looking at it thinking, okay, she was 85th and 16th percent or 85th and 23rd and now she's 83rd and 16th.

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Right.

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So I'm like, so we don't go back now.

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Now that we're at six months, we don't go back for, for three months now.

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We don't go back until she's nine months.

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So I just asked, I'm like, so over three, over the next three months, how much should she gain?

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And she's like, well, let's look and do a Google search.

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I'm like, look, uh, you, do you want to go to medical school?

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Like I can, you know, this right off the top, like I can Google it.

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You're supposed to be the content expert and you're going to show me how to use Google.

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Like, come on, sweetie.

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I don't like the jumping to inclusions and I like, I, you look at one picture now again, she could have been given better information, right?

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My, Kelly didn't say, and this happened 48 hours later, she said she saw this big blotch on her back and some stuff on her neck, like we touched her with an apple and this happened.

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No, that's not what happened.

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And so, yeah, the main thing is we've got to, we've got to feel good about the questions we're asking and the information we're providing or you can't trust the answer that you get back.

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I'm confused.

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Why?

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Cause I know Kelly's very smart.

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Yeah.

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Why she left off like this was 48 hours later.

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That was part of our discussion.

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Okay.

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And I think, I'm just saying, I know she's a brilliant woman.

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Maybe she just, there's a certain level of, I think, I love you Kelly.

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You know, I say it all the time.

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My wife is a brilliant woman.

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I don't throw that.

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I don't know.

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Smarter than us.

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Our wives are better.

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I don't, yeah.

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We have, I don't throw that, I don't throw that word around a lot.

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Like I don't know anybody else who I've said is brilliant in my life.

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She is.

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She's brilliant.

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She's a brilliant woman.

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But I also think that what comes along with that is a small side of being wildly uncomfortable with being wrong.

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Right.

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I think part of knowing you're not the smartest person in the room all the time is being comfortable with being wrong.

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Right.

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Right.

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It's like, okay, I think this is right, but I'm not going to be surprised or hurt if I'm wrong.

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So it is a different level of comfort.

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And I think, I think that, I think sometimes she may have a more of a challenge with that because she's probably wrong a lot less than you and me.

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Absolutely.

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Makes sense.

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Yeah.

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So I think, I think that, that might be, that might've been part of it.

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But so anyways, that was a little, a bit of a challenge, but all's well that ends well.

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We haven't, we'll, you'll have to look forward to another episode to find out how the Apple test goes.

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I feel horrible.

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I brought an apple pie over.

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I'll eat it.

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I'll eat it.

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That was another thing.

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I'm like, I'm, I'm doing all this reading.

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It's like, also, if they're allergic to apples, it's also highly likely that they're allergic to stone fruit.

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And we'd just been given her piles of peaches off our tree and just nothing.

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Yeah.

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And I'm like, come on.

223
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Like this is, there were so many checks.

224
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But again, you guys are new parents.

225
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We are.

226
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We are new parents.

227
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And everything is heightened.

228
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Every, every little thing you see.

229
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That's the other thing.

230
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I think that is the biggest factor with Kelly is she doesn't want to make a single mistake.

231
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She doesn't want, she doesn't want to make a mistake.

232
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I know.

233
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And that's a big part of that.

234
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I mean, does she think like, yes, we are older, but we should be smarter because we are older.

235
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So less mistakes.

236
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She just, she just doesn't want to make a mistake.

237
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And I think that's the point.

238
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Like that was one of the points I was trying to make was there's more than one way to make a mistake.

239
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Yeah.

240
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If we eliminate apples.

241
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That could be a mistake too.

242
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We're not going to do any harm to her from an apple, but down the road when she can only have hot water to drink, we're, you know, we're going to be in trouble.

243
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So it was a challenge.

244
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It was challenging.

245
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But again, but again, sometimes we do go to these professionals and take their word.

246
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And at this same professionals are looking at a Google.

247
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Well, yeah.

248
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Like we're talking about baby led weaning.

249
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Now I have my, one of my employees did it.

250
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Other people I've talked to know about it.

251
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Obviously Kelly discovered it in her reading.

252
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This woman had no idea what I was talking about.

253
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And I thought that was also, you know, you don't really, you don't really know.

254
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So we're back to, I don't trust anybody.

255
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So we're looking forward to the answer to the question of how much.

256
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So in the next three months she should put on between one and three pounds.

257
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Oh, okay.

258
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It slows down a lot.

259
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At this point.

260
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I thought it would be more too.

261
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So we had that.

262
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That was exciting.

263
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We had my birthday dinner.

264
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We went out to dinner.

265
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What'd you guys do?

266
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We went to Delmonico's Steakhouse and it was, it was fun.

267
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We went out, we sat down, we had a little table.

268
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We're next to a booth in the booth.

269
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It was a mother and her son and the son was older than us, so she had to be in her eighties.

270
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Sure.

271
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It was cute.

272
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It was like a 65 year old guy and his mom having dinner before they go to the SU game.

273
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They had their SU stuff on.

274
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She had her SU stuff on.

275
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And of course she sees the baby and she looks, how old?

276
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Six months.

277
00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,780
And then she's sitting there and she looks over and how old is she?

278
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Six months, just a little over six months.

279
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She asked like three times how old the baby was.

280
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And she's like, she's very observant.

281
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I think she's going to be highly intelligent.

282
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And I looked at her and I said, I think you're right.

283
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You're absolutely right.

284
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100%.

285
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You're a very astute.

286
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Do you know this family?

287
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That is an astute observation, ma'am.

288
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But it was cute.

289
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And then she was getting the attention from the adjoining tables.

290
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The fun thing was there she had her first, she had a big hunk of piece of ciabatta bread and she liked that.

291
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Not allergic to that.

292
00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,640
She had a wrist full of that and she was gnawing on that pretty good.

293
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She had the palmer grip on that one.

294
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She had her palmer grip.

295
00:16:55,540 --> 00:16:58,140
But we had the interaction with the cute old lady for my birthday dinner.

296
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Shout out to Delmonico's, huh?

297
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It was good.

298
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It's always good.

299
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You know, what did we have?

300
00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:03,780
We had something new this time.

301
00:17:03,780 --> 00:17:04,099
Oh yeah?

302
00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:04,619
I hadn't had it before.

303
00:17:05,099 --> 00:17:10,800
It was like a sausage stuffed pepper appetizer and it was very good.

304
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That sounds good.

305
00:17:11,579 --> 00:17:12,000
Very good.

306
00:17:12,260 --> 00:17:14,060
And I had a Delmonico.

307
00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:14,579
Of course.

308
00:17:15,180 --> 00:17:18,619
And Kelly had, she always gets lasagna wherever we go.

309
00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:18,940
Really?

310
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:26,359
She got a lot, but that lasagna, she had it for dinner and then we split the rest for lunch the next day.

311
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It was big, but it was very good.

312
00:17:28,500 --> 00:17:29,540
Delmonico's is a good restaurant.

313
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I like them.

314
00:17:30,580 --> 00:17:31,760
You've been out to dinner, right?

315
00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:32,420
With the baby?

316
00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:33,160
Yes.

317
00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:33,260
Yes.

318
00:17:33,260 --> 00:17:34,960
We had been to Delmonico's for Father's Day.

319
00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:41,100
Oh, I thought you said because for Father's Day they give all the fathers a gift certificate for another meal.

320
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Which I redeemed on my birthday.

321
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:42,900
Absolutely.

322
00:17:43,100 --> 00:17:43,240
It was awesome.

323
00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,780
So how was it with the baby?

324
00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:47,160
I mean, she's, you know.

325
00:17:47,340 --> 00:17:52,440
I mean, the first time we were in a booth kind of in the back and she was in her little car carrier thing.

326
00:17:53,020 --> 00:18:00,540
This time she was in a high chair and hanging out, doing that stuff and she was good.

327
00:18:00,620 --> 00:18:01,340
Isn't it cool though?

328
00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:02,260
And we're like, okay, wait a minute.

329
00:18:02,260 --> 00:18:03,520
We're back in restaurants.

330
00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:04,360
Yeah.

331
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,300
I got that back.

332
00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:06,360
We're getting this back.

333
00:18:06,740 --> 00:18:07,140
It's fun.

334
00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,900
You know, like I said before, prior episodes, you feel like everything's gone when you have that baby.

335
00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:12,280
Yes.

336
00:18:12,380 --> 00:18:14,040
I'll never be normal again.

337
00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,720
See, I look at it the other eye and I'm like, no, I have to do that again.

338
00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,080
Like, I'm fine with it.

339
00:18:18,100 --> 00:18:19,320
Like, I'm completely okay.

340
00:18:19,340 --> 00:18:20,000
No, but we love restaurants.

341
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:20,440
No, yeah.

342
00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,100
It's going out to dinner.

343
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:21,300
It's nice.

344
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,480
And it is, there is something about it.

345
00:18:24,020 --> 00:18:25,240
You're going around with a baby.

346
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People just light up.

347
00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:26,740
Absolutely.

348
00:18:26,740 --> 00:18:30,520
Like people constantly, they see babies and they just, they make everybody happy.

349
00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,860
And the more alert the babies are.

350
00:18:32,260 --> 00:18:33,240
And if they interact.

351
00:18:33,460 --> 00:18:34,540
They interact and all that.

352
00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,380
Even more so.

353
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:35,900
It's fun.

354
00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:36,880
It was fun.

355
00:18:37,100 --> 00:18:37,900
So we had that.

356
00:18:38,340 --> 00:18:39,440
Then we have all these birthdays.

357
00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,880
So it's like me, then you, then my sister, her birthday.

358
00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:48,300
We had my sister and her husband over for dinner and birthday cake.

359
00:18:48,540 --> 00:18:48,720
Okay.

360
00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:55,080
And Kelly made this short ribs in, or on top of a pumpkin puree.

361
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,220
Oh my goodness.

362
00:18:56,380 --> 00:18:56,740
Short rib.

363
00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:57,860
It was delicious.

364
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:58,520
Fantastic.

365
00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,580
She had the last of it today for leftovers, but it's very, very good.

366
00:19:02,620 --> 00:19:03,140
So we had that.

367
00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:16,560
And then we got, I got a cake for my sister's birthday and it was fun because it's been a while since they were here and we had a meal and baby Josie was hamming it up.

368
00:19:17,140 --> 00:19:19,480
She was like, Oh, that's the best.

369
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:19,860
It was.

370
00:19:19,980 --> 00:19:21,580
She was having the best time.

371
00:19:21,620 --> 00:19:22,760
Like I've never, I haven't seen it.

372
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:34,140
She's like, she, she's always engaging and does it, but she was clearly like just going to town and had my sister in stitches and my brother-in-law was taking videos.

373
00:19:34,420 --> 00:19:35,460
It was super cute.

374
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,060
Josie was sitting there having conversations, talking.

375
00:19:37,260 --> 00:19:39,420
She was all kinds of noises and smiling.

376
00:19:39,420 --> 00:19:43,480
Don't you love them when they do that, the little voices come, Oh my God.

377
00:19:43,540 --> 00:19:44,860
It's so much fun.

378
00:19:45,340 --> 00:19:46,560
It was very, very cool.

379
00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:52,120
We had the first use of, so now we go to Wegmans for groceries every Sunday.

380
00:19:52,340 --> 00:19:56,800
We go to Mass, after Mass, we go get groceries and we've been using it.

381
00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,600
We keep her in her car carrier and they have the special carts that have the red thing.

382
00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:03,000
You put the car carrier right on there.

383
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,680
Well, but now she's big enough.

384
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,280
We had her in the high chair at Delmonico's.

385
00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:20,920
Now she can go in the cart, but there's this thing and I will call it out because it is a fun product, but I also have a problem with it and it is called the Icopuca, I-C-O-P-U-C-A.

386
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:28,180
Icopuca shopping cart cover for baby, two in one cart cover for babies and high chairs.

387
00:20:29,060 --> 00:20:39,240
So it basically is like a plush cover that you put in the shopping cart so they're not on the metal and plastic and it makes it all comfy for her.

388
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:46,540
So we busted that out this last Sunday and put it in there and she was very comfy and it worked really well.

389
00:20:46,700 --> 00:20:47,160
It's nice.

390
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:47,920
It's pink.

391
00:20:48,060 --> 00:20:48,720
It's super cute.

392
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,480
And it elevates the level of attention that the kid gets in the grocery store.

393
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,760
If you miss the baby, you're going to see it now.

394
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,420
There's a little baby on a pink cloud.

395
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,920
But this really does bother me.

396
00:21:01,660 --> 00:21:03,360
I look down and I'm like, what's this?

397
00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:14,300
And right in front of you and where the baby is, is the clear plastic sleeve where you're supposed to put the phone for the kid to be able to see this.

398
00:21:14,300 --> 00:21:15,060
Oh, stop.

399
00:21:15,660 --> 00:21:16,140
Seriously.

400
00:21:16,140 --> 00:21:17,440
I thought it was like for you to hold.

401
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,740
I could see if it was a whole phone holder for me, maybe it would be off.

402
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,020
No, it's right in front of the kid, pointed at the kid.

403
00:21:24,140 --> 00:21:25,400
Yeah, it's your TV.

404
00:21:25,780 --> 00:21:26,140
Literally.

405
00:21:26,460 --> 00:21:30,000
And I thought, wow, everybody knows how bad that is.

406
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,680
It's so bad for the kids.

407
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,940
So a little disappointed in the Aiko Puka people.

408
00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:38,380
Bad, bad.

409
00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:39,620
Take that thing out of there.

410
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,280
It's not good for the kids, but otherwise good product.

411
00:21:42,420 --> 00:21:43,500
So we did that.

412
00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:45,760
I was not excited about the phone holder.

413
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,640
And then also this, so that same weekend we had our parish picnic.

414
00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:52,620
Oh, really?

415
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:53,480
It was nice.

416
00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:58,740
It was right up the road here because we live, where we live is our parish is two churches.

417
00:21:59,020 --> 00:22:04,460
So there's Sacred Heart where we go and Divine Mercy, which is North and Central Square.

418
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:11,620
And our pastor has both of those churches and we're exactly halfway.

419
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:12,860
So they had the...

420
00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:15,080
The park right up the road from our house.

421
00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:15,480
They had...

422
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,580
Which is so nice to be that close.

423
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,900
Yeah, the parish picnic.

424
00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:20,360
So we went down for that and it was fun.

425
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,460
Was it like a barbecue kind of thing?

426
00:22:21,540 --> 00:22:27,400
They did a barbecue and then they had an ice cream truck show up and everybody got a ticket so you could get an ice cream.

427
00:22:27,860 --> 00:22:30,320
And they had games for the kids and all that.

428
00:22:30,380 --> 00:22:30,840
It was cute.

429
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:31,580
It was very nice.

430
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:37,840
We saw some familiar faces, a lot of people that we didn't know from Divine Mercy.

431
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:44,460
But what was fun about it was we kind of got the wagon out and found a little spot and had our folding chairs.

432
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:54,820
And more so than I've ever noticed it before, probably because she's not around a lot, Baby Josie was super interested in all the other kids.

433
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,860
The kids that were playing, she was watching and looking.

434
00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:03,360
So I can see next year it's going to be a whole different ball game.

435
00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:04,460
But it was nice.

436
00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:05,420
It was a really nice event.

437
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,780
It seemed like it was a good turnout.

438
00:23:06,780 --> 00:23:10,140
Father, as he came over and said hello and a little more serious.

439
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,160
I like your church.

440
00:23:11,340 --> 00:23:13,400
I remember my church used to be like that.

441
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:21,180
And I went to my church, which is in Syracuse, last week and I'll tell you, there's just no one there.

442
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,620
There's no one there.

443
00:23:23,300 --> 00:23:24,320
And it was tough.

444
00:23:24,860 --> 00:23:25,580
I'll tell you this.

445
00:23:25,580 --> 00:23:26,340
The place used to be packed.

446
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:26,860
You know.

447
00:23:26,860 --> 00:23:27,140
Yeah.

448
00:23:27,340 --> 00:23:28,200
Pompeii used to be packed.

449
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:28,400
Yeah.

450
00:23:28,580 --> 00:23:31,120
And I would imagine at the holidays it must still get like that.

451
00:23:31,140 --> 00:23:32,380
Sure, but not as like it was.

452
00:23:32,380 --> 00:23:33,620
You know, I was thinking about that.

453
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:40,320
I was reading an article about how there's all these kind of lapsed Catholics, lots of people that only go on Christmas and Easter.

454
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,660
Right, the holiday Catholics.

455
00:23:41,660 --> 00:23:47,740
And like, what do you do to get the people who do show up to keep coming back?

456
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,440
Because it is.

457
00:23:49,740 --> 00:23:51,560
It's amazing how many people show up.

458
00:23:51,620 --> 00:23:56,080
But I will say, after everything that happened like this past Sunday, there were more people.

459
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,360
Like I know there were more people in church.

460
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:07,760
When you have situations, that's why my son called me after, you know, the whole situation with Charlie.

461
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:10,200
And he goes, let's go to church.

462
00:24:10,460 --> 00:24:13,460
And I mean, we go as much as we can.

463
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:20,480
But you know, I'm always on the road and it's easy to make excuses in life.

464
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:31,480
And you were talking about, I don't know if we were talking about this on this podcast or before the cameras went out, you were talking about finding time to work out again.

465
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:38,180
And when you're in the bad part of your health, you always find excuses.

466
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,280
I have no time.

467
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,200
I'm busy.

468
00:24:40,420 --> 00:24:41,580
Church is the same way.

469
00:24:41,860 --> 00:24:51,640
When you're not in your religious mode, you always find, I'm too busy, I'm out of town, my kids are young, my kids are too old, no one wants to go.

470
00:24:51,640 --> 00:25:00,600
And then when you finally figure out and do it, you're like, oh, there's plenty of time to fit things that you want to do.

471
00:25:00,820 --> 00:25:06,200
It's interesting because I was, you know, for years and years and years, decades, I didn't go to church.

472
00:25:07,260 --> 00:25:16,000
And when I started, it was literally, I would have those thoughts of, well, but once I go, then if I don't go, I'm gonna feel guilty all this time.

473
00:25:16,420 --> 00:25:17,420
But I did it.

474
00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:19,280
And in the beginning, it was work.

475
00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:20,380
It was hard.

476
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:32,780
And now, thank goodness, I am at a place where it's just like, we haven't missed it since the baby.

477
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,960
The baby has been to church every week since she was four weeks old without missing.

478
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:42,920
And it's just now, it is like, it's now muscle memory.

479
00:25:43,020 --> 00:25:43,480
It's just habit.

480
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:44,940
This is what we do.

481
00:25:45,260 --> 00:25:46,680
And I enjoy it.

482
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:53,900
And I hope I never miss, right?

483
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,860
There's something in my psychology that works for me that when I'm on a roll, I want to stay on a roll.

484
00:26:00,580 --> 00:26:01,980
So I hope I don't run it.

485
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,640
I hope I can just keep going.

486
00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:06,340
I know there's gonna be something that keeps me from going.

487
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:15,140
But right now, it just, in a way that it never was for me in my whole life, it is a part of my life.

488
00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:16,020
It speaks to you now.

489
00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:16,800
It does.

490
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,160
It grabs you.

491
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,700
It makes sense.

492
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,440
Absolutely.

493
00:26:20,060 --> 00:26:23,140
And you're getting so much out of it.

494
00:26:23,780 --> 00:26:26,200
I know it's, I get something out of it.

495
00:26:26,420 --> 00:26:28,900
I know it's good for my marriage.

496
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,820
I know it's good for my daughter.

497
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,900
And that just makes me want to do it more.

498
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:40,720
And then since I started volunteering, just always being able to contribute in some small way, right?

499
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,020
Like, I'm not doing anything crazy.

500
00:26:42,020 --> 00:26:45,420
I'm collecting, you know, doing the collection or greeting people.

501
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:58,940
One of the best times that I can remember in the church was when my wife and I, at separate times, was going through our adult confirmation, because we didn't do it at 15, 16.

502
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:04,660
And we got to know the people that worked there and the priest one-on-one.

503
00:27:04,820 --> 00:27:08,300
We were friends with Father and the deacons.

504
00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:18,040
And it became this, like you said, it was like a no-miss, like, I got to go, I want to be there.

505
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,060
I want to see my friends.

506
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,600
I want to see.

507
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,300
And then at the same time, God's working His magic, right?

508
00:27:25,820 --> 00:27:29,800
He's working His magic going, I'll get you here, my son.

509
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,980
And once I got you here, you're going to realize, oh, this is where I need to be.

510
00:27:33,980 --> 00:27:38,900
Even when we go to your church and we see all the people, it's so great.

511
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:44,000
There's something about going to my church, because there's so much.

512
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,300
My kids love it.

513
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,660
So it's hard to leave your parish.

514
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,520
It is.

515
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:56,380
Even though sometimes it's, you know, obviously if they close, it's easier, because then you can go, okay, it wasn't me.

516
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,740
I have to find a new place.

517
00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:04,080
But seeing that it's still around, it's hard for us to say, I'm going to go to yours or I'm going to go there.

518
00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:05,300
There's so much history there.

519
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:07,220
It's tough, because you have so many memories and history.

520
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,000
You have to remember, I mean, when I came to America, that was the first church we went to.

521
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,840
So we got our first communions and all that stuff, and then marriage, and you were married.

522
00:28:16,980 --> 00:28:18,820
I mean, yeah, so it's tough.

523
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:26,160
It's tough to change, but it's also tough to see that nobody's going to this particular place anymore where it used to be packed.

524
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,240
Well, I think you should just put that in your rear view mirror and come to our church from now on.

525
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:31,620
I mean, we love your church, too.

526
00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:36,080
It really, honestly, Fatherside is doing, we're so lucky to have him.

527
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:36,580
And that matters.

528
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:37,140
Yep.

529
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:44,580
He is making a difference, and I see it, and I have a lot of respect for him.

530
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:45,680
It's really nice.

531
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,500
He really, he's what that parish needs, and it's been nice to see it.

532
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,380
And it's nice that you do.

533
00:28:52,660 --> 00:28:53,920
You get a sense of community.

534
00:28:54,780 --> 00:28:57,240
You start getting to know people and seeing them in the same faces.

535
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,320
I mean, that's what church is, community, right?

536
00:28:58,340 --> 00:28:58,480
Yeah.

537
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:05,460
So, but part of me is like, well, the reason why there's no one here anymore is because everybody's doing that.

538
00:29:05,580 --> 00:29:14,020
They're leaving to go to other churches, and it's like, am I going to now be that person, too, to now make this more empty?

539
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:14,580
I don't know.

540
00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:19,960
It's a struggle, but the things that our families do, we love to go to other churches.

541
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,780
You know, for Easter, we might go here for, you know, different things.

542
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,540
Christmas, we might go to a different place.

543
00:29:26,540 --> 00:29:29,240
But, you know, Midnight Mass in Pompeii is, there's no other.

544
00:29:29,380 --> 00:29:32,840
I mean, it's so gorgeous, but it is what it is, but.

545
00:29:32,940 --> 00:29:34,260
Yeah, it is a beautiful church.

546
00:29:35,220 --> 00:29:35,360
Yeah.

547
00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:36,860
Our Lady of Pompeii is beautiful.

548
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,680
Yeah, so we went to the parish picnic.

549
00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:39,060
Yeah.

550
00:29:39,060 --> 00:29:40,380
That was good stuff.

551
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:46,960
I did have a first, so I'm constantly with the music, singing to her and playing different songs.

552
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,220
Yeah.

553
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,780
And we kind of have taken a little bit of a diversion.

554
00:29:51,980 --> 00:29:54,100
I started playing bluesier stuff for it.

555
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:55,360
Oh, you changed it up.

556
00:29:55,380 --> 00:30:03,340
So I put on some Ray Charles and some Shake Your Tail Feather.

557
00:30:04,460 --> 00:30:06,340
And what was the other one that I did?

558
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:07,900
She likes Sam Cooke.

559
00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:10,700
I've been playing lots of Sam Cooke for her.

560
00:30:11,380 --> 00:30:14,680
But for the first time, I played my guitar for her.

561
00:30:15,740 --> 00:30:18,380
I was just like, we had some time to kill.

562
00:30:19,020 --> 00:30:20,260
Kelly was on her way home.

563
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,560
And I haven't touched my guitar since probably the last time I did a lullaby for the show.

564
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,680
So I'm like, hey, we've never done this together.

565
00:30:27,820 --> 00:30:28,740
And she's staring at you.

566
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,500
And I had her in her little high chair and I'm like, okay, we're going to do this.

567
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,120
And she was immediately, she was fascinated.

568
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:42,100
And she definitely has, I think she has in recent days, she has her version of dancing.

569
00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:44,200
It's mostly head movements.

570
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:51,020
There's a lot of, there's a lot of this and smiling and there's some hand wave.

571
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:54,220
But yeah, the musical stuff, it's so much fun.

572
00:30:54,220 --> 00:31:05,420
And I'm constantly trying to like, no matter what it is, I'll have music going and I'll have her and I'll be like, kind of just tapping out the rhythms and always trying to sing harmonies and do stuff.

573
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,860
There's a 4-4 time tap here.

574
00:31:07,460 --> 00:31:07,900
Exactly.

575
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,720
Always telling her about, this is Bobby Bland.

576
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,720
He played with B.B. King for many years.

577
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:22,040
Like give her all the background, but it's like, yeah, she definitely, she seems to enjoy some of the kind of more fun bluesy stuff.

578
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:23,400
She's going to have it in her blood.

579
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,780
Literally, because when Kelly was pregnant, you were playing the guitar.

580
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,740
It's so much fun.

581
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,420
I enjoy that.

582
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,980
That is one of my favorite things to do with her, but she's fun all the time with all that stuff.

583
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:36,880
But yeah, so I got that.

584
00:31:36,940 --> 00:31:40,760
That was my, that was our first time with the guitar.

585
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:46,960
So I think I'm going to do more of that because of course, because I haven't played, I have no calluses and I'm weak.

586
00:31:47,380 --> 00:31:55,980
I was going to say, baby Josie only had to wait six and a half months to watch you play and Kelly waited for how many years before you played the guitar for her?

587
00:31:56,060 --> 00:31:56,160
A long time, yeah.

588
00:31:56,940 --> 00:31:57,860
Josie's waiting next.

589
00:31:57,980 --> 00:31:58,920
Yeah, she's waiting.

590
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,160
I remember when you told Trina, Trina's like, what do you mean you haven't played for your wife?

591
00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:04,620
No.

592
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,600
That's funny.

593
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:06,540
Yeah, it is.

594
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,240
That's funny.

595
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,140
But so it's been a lot of fun.

596
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,020
A lot of things happened.

597
00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:10,440
Yeah.

598
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,080
A lot of good stuff.

599
00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:12,320
Lots of cool stuff.

600
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,600
Lots of exciting things.

601
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,000
And then we have to look forward.

602
00:32:15,540 --> 00:32:22,660
This coming weekend, Uncle David and Auntie Gabe, Kelly's brother and his wife are coming to visit.

603
00:32:23,020 --> 00:32:23,400
Oh, cool.

604
00:32:23,620 --> 00:32:34,060
They've been really dedicated like every time they come visit and before they leave there because they're in Buffalo, they make the trip to see the baby and before they leave, they're planning the next time.

605
00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:35,240
It's really nice.

606
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:35,780
That's nice.

607
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,100
So we're going to get to see.

608
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,480
They are.

609
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:37,920
They're great.

610
00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:39,440
So we're looking forward to seeing them.

611
00:32:39,620 --> 00:32:42,420
But otherwise, we are all caught up.

612
00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:53,280
And now we have, this is the kind of riveting excitement of when we sign off, I get to walk over to the camera and see if it actually recorded any of this.

613
00:32:53,500 --> 00:32:54,880
Well, we know this one's still on, right?

614
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:55,740
That's what?

615
00:32:55,860 --> 00:32:57,380
Well, I know that one is.

616
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,240
So that's why I'm talking to that one.

617
00:32:59,540 --> 00:33:00,520
This one, I can see.

618
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,000
I'm not.

619
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:01,860
I think it's going.

620
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,220
I think it's going.

621
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:03,760
If it isn't.

622
00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:05,720
Well, I would think, would the camera be on?

623
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,600
Could we?

624
00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:07,180
I thought.

625
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,060
Well, the other times it was shutting off.

626
00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:10,920
So I think it's still going.

627
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,720
But I'm not 100% positive.

628
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,500
That's all right.

629
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:22,020
But if it isn't, you might on one of the other cameras hear Frank swear a lot and then hear a crunching sound when I destroy that thing.

630
00:33:22,020 --> 00:33:22,640
Well, we tried.

631
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,660
But, you know, hopefully, hopefully it worked.

632
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,640
I mean, I've only done 31 episodes.

633
00:33:27,740 --> 00:33:31,880
I know, 31, like from like the first four episodes, we had a really hard time with the video.

634
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Yeah, we didn't know what we were going to do.

635
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,420
And the audio for that matter.

636
00:33:34,660 --> 00:33:36,600
But since then, we've really had good luck.

637
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,560
But holy cow.

638
00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:39,580
Actually, it's when you bought the new stuff.

639
00:33:39,660 --> 00:33:39,840
Yeah.

640
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,540
I know.

641
00:33:40,660 --> 00:33:46,080
Now that we know, I just have to put an ice pack on the camera to make it not overheat.

642
00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:49,500
I just while you're talking, I'll just turn to see if the lights on.

643
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,440
I haven't seen it.

644
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,720
But I just look at the ice pack on a camera.

645
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,020
Yeah.

646
00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:54,780
Fantastic.

647
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,060
That's how we're doing things.

648
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:56,400
Yeah.

649
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,660
This is where we are.

650
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,240
Baby steps.

651
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,500
That's right.

652
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,000
Literally.

653
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,160
That's right.

654
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:01,700
Baby steps.

655
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,820
Quite literally.

656
00:34:03,740 --> 00:34:06,000
Well, thank you for making it all the way to the end once again.

657
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,620
And we will see you next time.

658
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,239
Well, folks.

659
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,719
That's another episode of the gray hair and daycare podcast in the books.

660
00:34:13,219 --> 00:34:15,679
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661
00:34:15,860 --> 00:34:16,860
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662
00:34:17,580 --> 00:34:21,840
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663
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664
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:32,600
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00:34:33,580 --> 00:34:45,480
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666
00:34:45,739 --> 00:34:46,679
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667
00:34:47,340 --> 00:34:48,880
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