Dec. 24, 2024

Christmas Eve, John Taylor, and the Diaper Diet Update : Episode 9

Christmas Eve, John Taylor, and the Diaper Diet Update : Episode 9
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Christmas Eve, John Taylor, and the Diaper Diet Update : Episode 9
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In this Christmas Eve episode, Frank and Carlo dive into a festive feast of topics, from holiday traditions to the joys and challenges of fatherhood. Join them as they discuss the Feast of the Seven Fishes, reminisce about Christmas memories, and share their favorite holiday traditions.

Frank also provides an update on his wife's pregnancy and introduces a new segment called "The Dadabase," featuring a conversation with a friend and colleague about the unique perspective of being a single dad.

Tune in for a heartwarming episode filled with laughter, reflection, and the spirit of the season!

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This is the gray hair and daycare podcast with a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ right in that same range.

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Your hosts, Frank Cereo and Karlo Russo.

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Welcome back.

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Here we are.

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This is episode nine and most very importantly, it is Christmas Eve.

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Or at least this is me released on Christmas Eve.

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I can smell the fish.

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The feast.

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Do you do the feast of the seven fishes?

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We do.

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I don't know if we do all seven.

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I think we substituted some stuff in there.

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I don't know if we ever get to seven.

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Yeah, I don't think we've ever got.

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And I don't know if we ever do the traditional.

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So the traditional ones are the cod, the cod with the tomatoes, which I always, if they don't soak it enough.

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You got to soak the salt.

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Or it's just that it's salty.

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It's like eating a shoe.

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So the cod, which is.

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Cod, so, or the.

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Calamari.

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Calamari.

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My dad always liked to do smelt.

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Smelt, fried smelt.

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I like, I still like doing that.

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And I make, I have a Emeril Lagasse special, very, very fancy tartar sauce with the smelt.

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Very good.

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It's really good.

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I will also do, I do, I have a dish.

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It is a bacon wrapped scallop with a brie cream sauce.

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Bring it.

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I think that's, that's an added on.

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It's awesome.

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It counts.

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I don't know if it's one of the seven, but it counts.

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We got shrimp, right?

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Shrimp is.

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Shrimp cocktail.

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That's an easy one.

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Throw in there.

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I don't know about your family, but did you guys do octopus or octopus salad or.

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Now, I believe that's one of the fish.

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But that stuff was really, my dad was the only one who liked it.

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So there wasn't, and we didn't do like Christmas Eve.

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We didn't do the, that stuff.

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There was lots of food, but we didn't really do the fish.

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So that's something.

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We always did.

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Yeah.

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And I could be wrong.

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This could be a segment, you know, back.

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I was wrong.

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In 10.

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I don't think we did it in Italy.

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No.

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No.

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Maybe it is an American.

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I could be wrong.

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I don't, I don't know.

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I wasn't in Italy long enough to, to remember.

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Right.

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Check with mom.

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I'm going to check with mom and dad and check with my sister, my, my sister-in-law's family.

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Yeah.

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Cause I, I remember asking once and they go, you know what?

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We don't do that in Italy.

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I don't know.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but, but we do it here.

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So we still do it.

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Yep.

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We now have a catered though.

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That's nice.

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Not catered, but we, we have.

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You order it.

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We order out.

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Yeah.

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We order it because it's too much.

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It's a lot of work.

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Yeah.

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And with the frying, it's, it's also the thing that to do all that stuff, you got to do it right then.

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Yeah.

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So somebody's cooking the whole time.

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Somebody's cooking.

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So right after I leave the studio, I'm going to be going and picking up the fish.

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There you go.

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Go pick up the fish.

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I'll pick up the fish.

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Look, you know what Kelly will make a very nice.

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She has a recipe for sea bass, which we do sometimes with, we're talking, this is really about, this isn't about a child and it's just about food.

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It's Christmas Eve.

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She does a recipe for sea bass with an olive tapenade.

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Wow.

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It is delicious.

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Fantastic.

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Okay.

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Well, I got to try that.

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And her fruit cake thing.

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Either way.

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So yes.

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That, so, so it is, hopefully everybody's having a very merry Christmas Eve and enjoying their holidays, but yeah, here we are.

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So as always.

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I am Frank Cereo.

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I'm 55 years old and my wife is 26 weeks pregnant and yeah, it's just going flying right by.

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It's going buddy.

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So the, the update for some reasons, I've looked at multiple websites to, for the weekly kind of the weekly size produce size produce.

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Again, this week again is a cauliflower, which we talked about last time.

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So size of a head of cauliflower.

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Now she sleeps and wakes on a schedule.

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So she has a sleeping and waking schedule in her little apartment there and my lovely wife, her, while her lungs are not fully developed still.

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Okay.

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But at this point she could breathe with help.

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So just from one week to the next, the development is happening so quickly.

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Seven days.

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Look what happens.

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That's it.

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Seven days.

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So week 26 had a cauliflower sleeping and waking on a schedule and lungs are developing and to the point where she could get by with a little help.

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So that is all.

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She's cooking up just fine.

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I think so.

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Yeah.

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It's it's, it's funny.

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I was, because preparing for the holidays and we're buying seems like all of a sudden there's more cookies around and stuff like that.

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And I happen to, for those many people in my family know, but for those of you who don't know, when I was a kid, my dad was a distributor or Stella Doro cook.

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I just saw them in the kitchen walking in.

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And they're up there.

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That's cookie.

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Absolutely.

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I was teasing Kelly saying you you're shaped like an S cookie now.

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She's got the cute little belly.

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But yeah, everything, everything seems to be moving along.

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I'm telling you, I know, I know you're probably growing up with it, probably sick of just looking at him.

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But the minute I walked in, I looked at that.

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I'm like, I want to walk.

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I haven't had him in such a long.

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Honestly, the ones I liked the most were the Swiss fudge.

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Oh yeah.

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They were so good.

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But that was, that was the thing was when he was, when he did that, we didn't get, we would get the, the stales.

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So when he would, when something would expire before it's sold at like Williams or you'd come on the big lot or a broken package or something.

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Yeah.

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We got big lots now.

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And it was never the Swiss fudge.

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It was like the margaritas.

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You know, what's funny is my brother to this day talking about food again.

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He is, we are talking about, but he, he helped my father deliver the cookies when he was a kid and I was too little before I stopped doing that.

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But my brother to this day can tell you which cookie and how many were on the shelf of the truck.

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Wow.

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He remembers it.

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He will recite it occasionally when we get together right here was like, he can, he was still remembers it now 50 or 60 or 60 years later.

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So it's out, it's on the counter.

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Yeah.

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I saw it.

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Yeah.

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There's cookies everywhere.

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There's, there's some cookies out, but the S cookie may, I was teasing Kelly.

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You're like, that's cookie.

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Yeah.

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So she's a, so she's got the shave.

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She gets a little cute little belly, but the, but to now stop talking about food and start talking about the podcast and what we should be talking about our first segment, which I knew was going to be in everyone.

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And here it is.

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Once again, I was wrong.

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So I was wrong this week from last episode, we discussed my deep fear of being involved in the birth of my child and how I thought, well, if it was a cesarean, we weren't sure what the protocol was.

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Apparently I get to scrub in.

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If I think I might've said you might just scrub in.

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I get to, I'm astonished.

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That they would want a lay person in there at all.

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Like, can't you just like, they have to put her out.

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Like, isn't she under assume again?

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We don't know.

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I don't know what happened.

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My wife had ours naturally.

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So I have no idea.

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I don't know if it's a, I don't think it's a local, she's just talking to you.

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The only thing I know for sure is the only thing I know for sure is in that case, there is in fact a curtain that I will be behind.

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I believe that's so very true, but there, there you go.

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So what are you hoping for?

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No, you never want surgery.

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No, it's always search surgery.

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Whatever's best for the baby and easiest is what I want.

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But yeah, that was immediately like, Oh yeah, no, you're you'll be there.

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I'm like, fantastic.

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Yeah.

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There's no, there's no 1950 father anymore, but you were talking about having a cigar and having a martini here at the waiting room, right?

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Unless you're just, you just want to start off the whole, the whole, uh, parenthood real bad.

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It's like disappointing.

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I'm leaving the room.

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Disappointing everyone.

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Yeah.

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Just disappoint everyone.

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Yeah.

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Let me know when you're done.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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No, you'll be fine.

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I'm sure.

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But you were wrong.

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I was wrong.

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I was wrong.

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It's good that you can see that.

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I think there might be based on what happened last episode.

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Yep.

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We might have a new one that's called Kelly is never wrong because of the way she handled the controversy that has already been resolved of whether or not Carlo truly guessed the Lululemon backpack without going to four questions.

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If I ever get in any legal trouble, I'm calling her.

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That's it.

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You should.

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I'm not calling a lawyer.

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I'm calling Kelly.

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It was, it was fantastic the way she, I couldn't believe it.

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I'm like, just write him a little note.

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I don't recall Senator.

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I will never write him a note.

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She will never admit it.

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No, it's fine.

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We were both right.

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Kelly.

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That's that's true.

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I know she's listening to this on the chair.

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We're watching on her right now.

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Watching it right now.

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So there was, I was wrong.

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So you're doctoring it up.

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You're, you're doing all the, you're cleaning the hands.

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You're putting on the, you're putting on the, uh, the scrubs.

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You're, you're doing it all.

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I don't know.

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I didn't even like to wear a mask during COVID.

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I don't want to do that, but we'll see.

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That's no, it's, it's, it's gotta be.

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Honestly, it's probably a lot easier to do that.

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Cause you know, you're just, there's that, like you said, the blanket that's covering half the body.

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Yup.

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You're just talking to her up there or maybe not.

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I don't know if she's awake or not.

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I don't know what you're doing.

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You could be just, just apologize.

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Then, then the natural is natural.

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You're going to be, you're going to be everybody's up and running.

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Yeah.

241
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So we'll see.

242
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We'll see.

243
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But that's, I was wrong.

244
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We'll have the video going for the podcast in the room.

245
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You know what I thought?

246
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I thought about, I, and I talked to Kelly about this.

247
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What I might do for that is, and you tell me what you think of this.

248
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Sure.

249
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I will.

250
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What I told her was I'll have her find the most horrific video she could possibly find.

251
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She'll do the research, find the video.

252
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Okay.

253
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And then have you ever seen like these videos of like Ben reacts to whatever?

254
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Sure.

255
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So we'll set up the two of us.

256
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We'll sit in the home theater with a camera on us and the video will play.

257
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So we won't, we won't show you the video.

258
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Yeah.

259
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But she, and that's the first thing Kelly said.

260
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It was like, well, as long as we don't, we're not going to infringe on copyright.

261
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She is a lawyer.

262
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Why does this is what you think about?

263
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But you're not thinking about your husband crying on camera.

264
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Like, oh my God.

265
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But so we could do that.

266
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We could do a Frank feints live.

267
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So the video is going to be of a, we'll have her find a video of a birth of a late.

268
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And then we will play it in the home theater, but the camera, Oh, let's do that tonight.

269
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I got the popcorn.

270
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I want to see what happens to you.

271
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We want to see if you run it.

272
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We'll run it.

273
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I will.

274
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At the very least I'll be seated.

275
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But yeah, I thought we could do it.

276
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It'll be, that would be fun.

277
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I'm in.

278
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If I'd have to find the way I want to tie it into my Fitbit.

279
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So you can watch my heart rate spike.

280
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The wife's coming over for, for a podcast.

281
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Maybe we can watch movie night.

282
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We usually have movie night.

283
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This will be a different movie night.

284
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Different kind of movie night.

285
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Well, I'm in, if you guys can figure that out, I'm in.

286
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Okay.

287
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So that we might do that in the future.

288
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Oh, Kelly, she's getting into it now.

289
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This is great.

290
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I love it.

291
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Yeah.

292
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She's involved.

293
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That's the executive producer level.

294
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I got to give her the credit.

295
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She's going to be our producer.

296
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I'm going to have to have titles at the bot.

297
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Yep.

298
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Our lawyer.

299
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Entertainment lawyer.

300
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Entertainment lawyer.

301
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All right, I'm in.

302
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Copyright lawyer.

303
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So the next segment that we're going to roll into now, again, a perennial favorite, the Silver Fox mailbox.

304
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I love this part.

305
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So the Silver Fox mailbox, really what we have to go over this time is, we're, it is, you know, this, this episode comes out on Christmas Eve.

306
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Tomorrow, we will be putting out the results of the voting.

307
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There's going to be an announcement tomorrow.

308
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Yep, an announcement of our Name the Baby initiative.

309
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So again, as a refresher, you could still vote until we're going to say midnight on Christmas Eve.

310
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Okay.

311
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That's the deadline.

312
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I'm going to close the Google form.

313
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So it's out there.

314
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It's on the Google form.

315
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We have, the possibilities are Carmella Rose, Gabriella Marie, Lucia, Sophia, Michaeline, Froot Loop, Jasmine Bubbles, Mariela, Madeline, Francesca Kelly, Josephine, Charlotte, Nicole, and Kiara.

316
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And I will say, so far, the leader in the voting, and it's close, but the leader is, Josephine.

317
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Wow.

318
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Currently.

319
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Okay.

320
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Madeline is a close second.

321
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Okay.

322
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There's time, people.

323
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But there's time.

324
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You can get, if you get those votes in there, just get them in, and I will make us, we're going to have a special announcement tomorrow, but that's, that's where we are.

325
00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,300
So far, it could be baby Josie.

326
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I have no problem with that at all.

327
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Although you desperately want it to be Madeline.

328
00:14:12,260 --> 00:14:16,160
Well, yeah, for, for the sake of my home and health.

329
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Happiness.

330
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Happiness.

331
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Your marriage.

332
00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,940
But no, Josephine is also a family name for me.

333
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So I'll be happy with a fake baby Josie.

334
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Fake baby Josie.

335
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That could be it.

336
00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,820
It'll be better than Jasmine Bubbles.

337
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Jasmine Bubbles or Carlina Louise.

338
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Oh, that's right.

339
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Carlina Louise.

340
00:14:34,820 --> 00:14:36,760
Yeah, that was another one from our dear friend Dave.

341
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From Dave.

342
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Yeah.

343
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That's right.

344
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So that's our Silver Fox mailbox update.

345
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And now we're going to move into, if this is the first time, a lot of work has gone into this one.

346
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This is our first installment of the database.

347
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Welcome to the inaugural episode of the database, where I'm going to try to learn from friends, dads that I don't know, people with different perspectives on parenting and different experiences.

348
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And I am joined today by somebody whose work I've respected for many, many years, Mr. Paul Giamatti, ladies and gentlemen.

349
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Pleasure to be here.

350
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I've got a break between movies.

351
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And I thought, what better place?

352
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Working at that, what's that studio in Liverpool called?

353
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Doing their latest film.

354
00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,720
I'm the grumpy principal.

355
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He could play that.

356
00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:43,460
So in fact, this is not a Paul Giamatti, but he bears a striking resemblance to him.

357
00:15:43,580 --> 00:15:48,400
This is John Taylor, a gentleman that I've known for now.

358
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Over 25 years.

359
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97 to 2002 was when I worked for Circuit.

360
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So we met somewhere right around.

361
00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,460
I mean, 98, 99.

362
00:16:02,460 --> 00:16:03,640
Yeah, 98 or 99.

363
00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:08,320
The better part of 25 years that we've known each other.

364
00:16:08,820 --> 00:16:13,900
And we ended up initially playing in a band together briefly.

365
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I joined an existing concern.

366
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You did, but you traveled immense distances to make it happen.

367
00:16:23,940 --> 00:16:24,480
It's true.

368
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A testament to your dedication.

369
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I enjoyed it very much.

370
00:16:28,860 --> 00:16:34,600
So we've known each other for a very long time, most recently and also for quite a while now, 10 years.

371
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We have worked together in the location-based entertainment business.

372
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But I guess to start off, I think I'd like to hear just from your perspective.

373
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What is the uniqueness of your dad, your fatherhood situation right now?

374
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And a little bit about you generally.

375
00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:58,720
Yeah, sure.

376
00:16:58,820 --> 00:16:59,200
Thank you.

377
00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,839
So obviously, the fact that I'm here hopefully implies that I am a dad.

378
00:17:06,579 --> 00:17:11,480
I'm the youngest of four, and none of my siblings ended up having kids.

379
00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,880
And I kind of, as life moved on, I kind of thought I wasn't going to have kids.

380
00:17:17,619 --> 00:17:21,240
Even prepared my mom that, hey, sorry, mom is on the cards.

381
00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,240
You're not going to be in the grandma business.

382
00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:23,780
You are not going to be a grandmother.

383
00:17:23,780 --> 00:17:31,380
And as luck would have it, you know, life found a way to go my way.

384
00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,980
And I did end up meeting someone and getting married.

385
00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,160
And we had a kid right before I turned 40.

386
00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,300
So I snuck a kid in right at 39.

387
00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,800
So still a little bit older, dad.

388
00:17:43,940 --> 00:17:49,960
Yeah, yeah, no, I was definitely nervous about that for sure at that time.

389
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,860
And now I do have an eight-year-old.

390
00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,280
I am currently I am divorced.

391
00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,840
So I'm a single dad who does get along very amicably.

392
00:18:00,060 --> 00:18:01,940
Good, good co-parenting situation.

393
00:18:02,780 --> 00:18:07,320
Yeah, it's every day is it's cliche, but every day is an adventure.

394
00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,200
Having a child leading right up to an eight-year-old where I'm at now.

395
00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:18,200
So I mean, it's interesting because it's as common now kind of 50-50, right?

396
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,480
To be in a single dad, single mom situation.

397
00:18:20,620 --> 00:18:20,760
Yeah.

398
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,060
As you know, as a married couple or a committed couple with kids.

399
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,140
But I do think that's obviously a different perspective.

400
00:18:28,540 --> 00:18:31,220
And you kind of have you have both, right?

401
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,120
So you have kind of when you were together in the early days with Jacob.

402
00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:35,540
Yeah.

403
00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:44,780
And then now kind of the day-to-day and managing co-parenting that I think is going to make your perspective unique.

404
00:18:45,140 --> 00:18:45,340
Yeah.

405
00:18:45,340 --> 00:18:58,280
And one of the things that I do think when I think about our history together and you with Jacob, the memory that comes back to me first is a couple of weeks before.

406
00:18:59,220 --> 00:19:02,240
Well, it was just we worked together, John and I.

407
00:19:02,980 --> 00:19:06,220
John's working in the same location, one of the locations that I manage.

408
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,420
I was there officing, you know, in that spot.

409
00:19:09,460 --> 00:19:10,460
So we saw each other a lot.

410
00:19:10,460 --> 00:19:19,080
And John had just completed like a coaching conversation with an employee and I was that I kind of I didn't feel great about.

411
00:19:19,340 --> 00:19:23,300
And we were having one of those developmental conversations that we sometimes have.

412
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,020
And I said, and I was just like, look, just do me a favor.

413
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,040
Just never have a kid, never have a kid.

414
00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:32,940
Because if you do, you will destroy that child.

415
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:33,760
Like, just don't do it.

416
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,160
You can't communicate to this way.

417
00:19:36,020 --> 00:19:39,640
And like two weeks later to not even I think it was really close.

418
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,640
And John comes in, he's like, I'm going to I'm going to be a father.

419
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,600
I'm like, immediately I thought back to that.

420
00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:48,360
I'm like, oh, my God.

421
00:19:48,580 --> 00:19:52,760
And I have to say very I'm very pleased to have been completely wrong.

422
00:19:53,420 --> 00:19:59,740
Jacob's a great kid, you know, and he seems like he's healthy and and doing really well and thriving.

423
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,060
And it's great.

424
00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:03,800
The few opportunities I've had to interact with him.

425
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,340
He's a good kid.

426
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,020
So but I do I think when I'm like, why did I have this?

427
00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:09,820
It is funny.

428
00:20:09,980 --> 00:20:11,360
It's funny how it happens.

429
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,360
It was so purely from a position of self-interest for me.

430
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:16,760
Yeah.

431
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,160
What do you think?

432
00:20:18,420 --> 00:20:28,560
What was the biggest challenge you faced in the like the early months of the first few months of of fatherhood?

433
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,240
Yeah, sure.

434
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:37,820
Well, one very interesting fact is prior to my own child, I had never held a baby before.

435
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,160
That that's something.

436
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,400
So I was it was all new to me.

437
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,480
And no exposure whatsoever.

438
00:20:46,700 --> 00:20:47,060
None.

439
00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:48,240
Wow.

440
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,060
So I had as little experience as you could possibly have.

441
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:52,480
Right.

442
00:20:52,540 --> 00:20:53,540
Starting with a clean slate.

443
00:20:53,660 --> 00:20:54,120
That's good.

444
00:20:54,760 --> 00:21:03,620
And I would say it's the scary part is how, you know, the way the hospital goes.

445
00:21:03,620 --> 00:21:10,340
There is essentially there's two things that you have to have covered in order to go home with the baby.

446
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:11,680
So you're in the hospital.

447
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,200
You've got the baby and you you need two things.

448
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:21,540
You need to watch a 1970s video on not to shake your baby.

449
00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:23,440
And you need to have a car seat.

450
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,640
And those are the only.

451
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,260
That's the bar.

452
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,600
Literally the only prerequisites for them to allow you to go home.

453
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:29,960
Okay.

454
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:40,080
And and you get home that night and it's you just it's impossible not to feel like, how could they let this happen?

455
00:21:40,180 --> 00:21:41,020
How could they send us?

456
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,320
Why did they trust us with this?

457
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,760
It's it's impossible not to feel that way.

458
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,960
And those early nights, you know, we you know, we had the we had the bassinet.

459
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,620
You know, you get all the things that you think you need.

460
00:21:54,780 --> 00:21:55,720
You had all the stuff.

461
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:55,980
Yeah.

462
00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,200
And and we put the baby in the bassinet and the baby did not want to be in the bassinet.

463
00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:06,820
And the bassinet was supposed to be this thing that we needed.

464
00:22:06,820 --> 00:22:10,220
And it it just turned out to not be a thing that we needed.

465
00:22:10,940 --> 00:22:16,700
And so those early days, I think it was just a learning all the things that you prepare for.

466
00:22:17,340 --> 00:22:18,840
Some of them are going to be great.

467
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,800
You know, he ended up sleeping in this very.

468
00:22:23,460 --> 00:22:27,920
It almost like was shaped like kind of skinny, like a green bean.

469
00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:31,160
And it was on two two kind of rocking legs.

470
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,900
But it kind of ensconced him at the sides.

471
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,280
And that ended up being like.

472
00:22:36,460 --> 00:22:37,360
That was the thing.

473
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,220
It was far cheaper than the bassinet.

474
00:22:39,420 --> 00:22:41,380
But that was what he liked to sleep in.

475
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:41,700
Right.

476
00:22:43,580 --> 00:22:44,540
So, yeah.

477
00:22:44,860 --> 00:22:48,720
So did did your wife have experience with little kids?

478
00:22:48,740 --> 00:22:49,580
No, no.

479
00:22:49,580 --> 00:22:58,520
What was very interesting is while obviously a lovely person, never really had much interaction with kids.

480
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:05,680
And one of the one of the early things I noticed, we were we were cashing out in a grocery in the grocery store and we're in the line.

481
00:23:07,380 --> 00:23:13,540
And I mean, it's stuck out to me like like a lightning bolt.

482
00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:18,640
The way she was interacting with, you know, there's somebody in front of you in line with a cart.

483
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,340
It's a mom with a young child.

484
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,700
And the way she just.

485
00:23:23,740 --> 00:23:27,160
Became a completely different person.

486
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:32,380
And the way she was interacting with these little kids, it was also engaging with children prior to that.

487
00:23:32,660 --> 00:23:41,220
I mean, they if they were there, it was just gray static, just completely unaware of these things.

488
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,400
And I was the same way.

489
00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:45,680
I have a buddy who's got older teens.

490
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,080
And, you know, I've I've known him for over 20 years as well.

491
00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:58,960
And I was friends when, you know, when he had kids and the kids were there, but they were just, again, static background.

492
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,100
They just didn't notice them.

493
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:01,440
Yeah.

494
00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:05,060
And then everything does it just it just changes.

495
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,500
That's got to be interesting.

496
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,000
So those initial challenges were literally like you starting from ground up with.

497
00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:11,380
Yeah.

498
00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:16,760
I mean, I had to be doing all I had changed diapers, hadn't done, you know, bottles, hadn't.

499
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:17,980
Was there a clear?

500
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,840
Who was better at it?

501
00:24:21,380 --> 00:24:23,840
Because you were both kind of equally inexperienced.

502
00:24:24,060 --> 00:24:24,340
Yeah.

503
00:24:24,460 --> 00:24:28,600
Was was your wife so of a natural at it than you?

504
00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:35,040
I mean, she is amazing at at all of it.

505
00:24:35,260 --> 00:24:35,500
OK.

506
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:41,540
And I will say, I mean, I I'm so fortunate at how good she is at things.

507
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:46,240
I was very good at getting him to sleep.

508
00:24:46,540 --> 00:24:47,000
Really?

509
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:47,580
Yeah.

510
00:24:47,580 --> 00:24:49,100
You were the one who could get him to fall asleep.

511
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:49,720
I am.

512
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,760
So I can.

513
00:24:52,020 --> 00:24:54,300
It's the dulcet tones of your voice.

514
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,020
It could be.

515
00:24:55,300 --> 00:24:59,600
I I I remember the early days.

516
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:10,460
I would kind of go robotic in the sense of like, OK, I'm going to pick you up and I am going to walk in a track throughout the home.

517
00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:14,660
Which is not as big as a track outside.

518
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:22,160
And I'm just going to walk on this track, kind of rocking you and walking through this until you fall asleep.

519
00:25:22,780 --> 00:25:26,160
And whether it takes five minutes, 15 minutes, a half hour.

520
00:25:26,420 --> 00:25:33,520
This is all I am just the world got very small and all you you're kind of forced to see what's right in front of you.

521
00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:43,200
I think what's interesting is the things you will be able to accomplish that you in a million years didn't think like you're like, oh, my gosh, I'm not going to be able to change diapers or I'm not going to be able to do this.

522
00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:47,460
And you just somehow do.

523
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,660
You just figure it out.

524
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,960
But yeah, she I mean, she was amazing is continues to be amazing at everything.

525
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,340
But yeah, I think bedtime and going to sleep.

526
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,300
That was your thing.

527
00:25:58,460 --> 00:25:59,500
That was your superpower.

528
00:25:59,640 --> 00:25:59,900
Yeah.

529
00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:00,600
Getting them to sleep.

530
00:26:01,020 --> 00:26:03,400
So was there anything that.

531
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:17,200
In those first few months that you thought I I wish I had done whatever that thing is before before he was born, like what was the was there that if only I had done X.

532
00:26:18,260 --> 00:26:19,640
Oh, that's a good question.

533
00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:23,940
I had a lot of books that I don't think I read.

534
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:26,680
I've already experienced.

535
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,000
I definitely I look I I read through some of the stuff.

536
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,880
It isn't to say I didn't read anything, but there are so so many books out there.

537
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,940
There is literally I'm constantly talking about it.

538
00:26:38,940 --> 00:26:41,560
I have this list of books stack now.

539
00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:45,100
And Kelly is a voracious reader.

540
00:26:45,180 --> 00:26:48,520
So she's tearing through the stuff and they just go into my pile.

541
00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:59,700
I've been almost exclusively like there were four dog like books on how to introduce the dogs to the baby for just on that.

542
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,680
And finally, after like three, I didn't I just gave up.

543
00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:04,260
I'm like, I'm not reading the fourth one.

544
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,880
But yeah, there's there's a tremendous amount of reading.

545
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,220
And yeah, so I can picture that.

546
00:27:09,300 --> 00:27:12,480
So you were like looking for the yeah, the bold passages.

547
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,060
And I mean, the high is everything is with hindsight.

548
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:34,720
There was and to be unhelpful, I'm not going to remember the app, but there was an app that I remember we had that I don't I don't think it was called the Wonder Years, but it basically it mapped out their brain.

549
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:42,420
Kind of by day and week and month, and it was almost a pregnancy, the development.

550
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,240
No, no, this is when they're very little.

551
00:27:46,780 --> 00:27:58,060
And it it essentially it lined up when your kid was going to be really or basically it was like a weather app.

552
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:04,940
And it would it would it graphically use like storm clouds and and all these things.

553
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:07,300
And I wish I was making this up.

554
00:28:07,660 --> 00:28:13,480
It lined up because you look at at your partner and you're like, this is this is insane.

555
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,960
What is happening right now?

556
00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:15,260
Why?

557
00:28:15,620 --> 00:28:17,120
Why is everything so crazy?

558
00:28:17,340 --> 00:28:21,040
And then you would look and you're like, oh, we're in one of the we're in one of the storm cloud patches.

559
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,320
So it's like over like it would be like a week that, oh, this is a danger week.

560
00:28:25,380 --> 00:28:25,680
Yeah.

561
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,540
And it was accurate.

562
00:28:26,540 --> 00:28:29,080
I got to find out what I was.

563
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:29,480
I will.

564
00:28:29,860 --> 00:28:34,140
Afterwards, we'll do some research because I promise you that sounds invaluable.

565
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:41,340
It was it was helpful because I guess, yeah, you can't really prepare, read, read about this.

566
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:47,500
But, you know, being prepared for all the things that you're going to unexpectedly go through.

567
00:28:47,780 --> 00:28:48,080
Gotcha.

568
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:48,900
That's interesting.

569
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:51,680
So, yeah, but yeah, yeah.

570
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,640
That would be the forecast app.

571
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,980
I'll find out what the name is.

572
00:28:57,020 --> 00:28:58,380
And do the reading, basically.

573
00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,280
Oh, yeah.

574
00:28:59,340 --> 00:28:59,700
OK.

575
00:29:00,580 --> 00:29:05,680
Everyone has, you know, you you think you feel because you're in it.

576
00:29:05,780 --> 00:29:12,220
You feel like, oh, my gosh, nobody's ever gone through this until you realize that basically most everyone has gone through this.

577
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,580
Yeah, there's the one book that I'm finally in now is the one that everybody's supposed to read.

578
00:29:16,620 --> 00:29:18,040
What to expect when you're expecting.

579
00:29:18,220 --> 00:29:18,980
I think that was the one.

580
00:29:18,980 --> 00:29:28,760
And already because I started because I started it so much later because of all the dog books, I'm now reading about what has already happened in the pregnancy.

581
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,200
And I'm like, I wish I knew.

582
00:29:30,340 --> 00:29:32,420
Yeah, it would have made things easier.

583
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,560
So I guess I definitely get that.

584
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,700
So no experience baby wrangling before Jacob arrived on the scene.

585
00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:39,220
Yeah.

586
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,000
So what is the what is there a hack?

587
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,180
Is there a trick?

588
00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:48,360
Is there something that you did learn once Jacob arrived?

589
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:53,300
That is like the thing that so, you know, I would say.

590
00:29:53,500 --> 00:30:02,440
So the funny thing is, is one of the early nights where you're alone, you've got the baby and you're just like, I don't I don't know what to do here.

591
00:30:02,540 --> 00:30:09,860
I remember I was I had him in his little swaddle and I'm we were taking kind of turns to get sleep.

592
00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:13,200
And it's like the middle of the night and I'm walking and he just won't sleep.

593
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:20,360
And I, you know, I put him on top of the stove and I just remember looking at him like, why is this happening?

594
00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:24,680
You know, before picking him up and walking.

595
00:30:24,860 --> 00:30:25,240
But I took that.

596
00:30:25,380 --> 00:30:26,140
The stove wasn't on.

597
00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:27,380
The stove was not on.

598
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,240
There's nothing controversial about this.

599
00:30:29,620 --> 00:30:31,820
But I do I do distinctly remember.

600
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:32,600
That's an image.

601
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:39,120
And putting him, you know, on top of this stove and just under that that sort of dome light that they have.

602
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,340
And just looking at this baby like, what is it like?

603
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,880
What is happening?

604
00:30:44,060 --> 00:30:45,520
Trying, trying to trying to get this.

605
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:51,540
But the thing we learned and that we were very fortunate and every child is going to be completely different.

606
00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:59,960
But we got we were very if we were good at anything due to our inexperience, the one thing we were good at was consistency.

607
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,060
We were, I mean, probably to a fault.

608
00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:17,840
We were so consistent about we tracked all of the feedings, all of the diaper changes, naps, same times every day, bedtime, same time every day.

609
00:31:17,980 --> 00:31:24,600
And just we just stayed very, very pattern based, consistent.

610
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,620
So at that point, is it pretty much just your choice?

611
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,480
It's not like you have to convince the kid to go to bed at that point.

612
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,160
It's just that's.

613
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:38,320
So in at the very beginning, you have to teach the baby what daytime and nighttime is.

614
00:31:38,620 --> 00:31:38,900
OK.

615
00:31:39,140 --> 00:31:40,200
They don't know what that is.

616
00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:45,900
And to give a little backstory, my son was born.

617
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,240
It was it was a very scary incident.

618
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,380
So he's born.

619
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:57,780
And the moment he's born, like five plus people rush into the room and take him away.

620
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:58,560
Really?

621
00:31:58,820 --> 00:31:59,020
Yeah.

622
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,080
Inexplicably, you don't know what's going on.

623
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,660
It's already the scariest thing I've ever seen.

624
00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:04,120
Sure.

625
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,700
And then they rush in, take him away.

626
00:32:08,220 --> 00:32:09,180
I'm looking at my wife.

627
00:32:09,260 --> 00:32:09,940
She's looking at me.

628
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,500
We're both like, what?

629
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,540
We don't know what's happening.

630
00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:14,760
And nobody's telling like nobody tells.

631
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,580
In the moment that I don't remember, I don't have a memory of it.

632
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:19,860
Right.

633
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:20,380
OK.

634
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,620
It wasn't it wasn't long.

635
00:32:22,780 --> 00:32:26,840
We're told that the baby probably felt like it was terrifying.

636
00:32:26,980 --> 00:32:28,240
It was terrifying.

637
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,280
Baby swallowed meconium.

638
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,720
Oh, meconium.

639
00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:36,860
That is a word that Carlo keeps mistaking for what killed Superman.

640
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:42,540
So that so this happened during during childbirth.

641
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:43,400
Yeah.

642
00:32:43,540 --> 00:32:46,240
Or yeah, or like during the birth or right before the birth.

643
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,180
I'm not sure how how close it was, but I think it was during the birth.

644
00:32:49,420 --> 00:32:52,420
And so they rush in because they have to clear that out.

645
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,400
It's right.

646
00:32:53,740 --> 00:32:55,120
And yeah, that can be very bad.

647
00:32:55,220 --> 00:32:55,480
Yes.

648
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,600
So he ends up spending five days in the NICU.

649
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Oh, wow.

650
00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:01,560
All due to that.

651
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:02,000
Yes.

652
00:33:02,180 --> 00:33:02,520
Wow.

653
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,940
And like, you know, you're talking like the little incubator with the tape and all the stuff.

654
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,940
And you can't really interact.

655
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:09,280
No.

656
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:21,560
And I've you know, I've long maintained if I was ever to become a millionaire, I would give every penny to the NICU nurses at Crouse Hospital.

657
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:32,080
Because when I tell you that place is unlike any that specifically the NICU ward and the people who work there.

658
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:45,420
I mean, I've never been in such a an almost heavenly place that the quiet, the tranquility, the peace, the kindness, because everyone there is not there for a good reason.

659
00:33:45,660 --> 00:33:47,720
And the nurses there are just.

660
00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:52,920
I mean, nurses are nothing short of miracle workers.

661
00:33:53,140 --> 00:33:53,640
That's fantastic.

662
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,040
So we are back from our first installment of the database.

663
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,760
So that is our time spent with John Taylor.

664
00:34:00,940 --> 00:34:02,360
First part of that interview.

665
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,480
And what did you think?

666
00:34:04,780 --> 00:34:06,300
First of all, love John.

667
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:08,860
John Taylor, not of Duran Duran.

668
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:11,239
Is that one of the?

669
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:12,179
John Taylor's of Duran Duran.

670
00:34:12,179 --> 00:34:12,520
Oh, okay.

671
00:34:13,340 --> 00:34:16,159
So when people thought, they're going to have John Taylor on it.

672
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:16,600
Yeah.

673
00:34:16,980 --> 00:34:19,600
You got Duran Duran talking about fatherhood.

674
00:34:19,699 --> 00:34:19,880
Yeah.

675
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:22,120
They're like, that's not John Taylor.

676
00:34:22,260 --> 00:34:22,780
John Taylor.

677
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,199
Yeah.

678
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,020
I thought that was, I thought that was a funny part.

679
00:34:26,060 --> 00:34:29,760
There's some, some real stuff in there that I remember happening.

680
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,760
Because I, again, I was working with you guys.

681
00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:32,880
Yeah.

682
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,520
We were all, we were kind of all together at that point.

683
00:34:36,340 --> 00:34:37,060
And yeah.

684
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,659
And I did when he, as soon as he said meconium, I'm like, oh my God.

685
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,300
I love talking about that for three episodes.

686
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,120
Yeah.

687
00:34:44,139 --> 00:34:45,900
We looked at each other and we just started laughing.

688
00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:47,060
And then I remembered, yeah.

689
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:51,820
I remember the doctor saying that to us, uh, with our first.

690
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,540
And I just, you just forget, you know, you forget it.

691
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:57,280
Nothing happened luckily to our child.

692
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,360
So it was like in and out.

693
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,100
This could happen.

694
00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,740
It didn't happen.

695
00:34:59,980 --> 00:35:03,720
So we never thought about it again until our second one didn't happen either.

696
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,760
So, but it was funny when I was watching him going, oh my God, that's right.

697
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,760
I remember that they said, if this happens, they're going to have to take the baby away and all that good stuff.

698
00:35:12,780 --> 00:35:15,220
And, and I'm glad it obviously didn't work.

699
00:35:15,220 --> 00:35:20,000
Like when he said that immediately, like immediately I kind of chuckled because of hearing meconium.

700
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:23,700
But then when he talks about it, like it had to be absolutely terrifying.

701
00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:27,560
You go from this intense experience to the kids gone.

702
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,260
Like they just, they swoop in and take the kid and then five days in the NICU.

703
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,460
And yeah, that had to be absolute.

704
00:35:35,580 --> 00:35:40,740
Like, like I have these nothing's happening and I'm getting terrified.

705
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,840
So in a situation like that, like, yeah, that had to be absolutely.

706
00:35:43,940 --> 00:35:44,900
That happened to us.

707
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:45,420
Yeah.

708
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,980
So remember when I told you the, our first was almost three weeks early.

709
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:50,400
Yes.

710
00:35:51,720 --> 00:36:01,080
So when, when they had, when my wife had the baby, someone said to the doctor, oh, it's it's three something.

711
00:36:01,220 --> 00:36:02,900
It's it's preemie or something.

712
00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:06,560
Cause it was a small, it was very small.

713
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,780
And the doctor was like, oh my God, grabbed them.

714
00:36:10,220 --> 00:36:11,660
And they were talking amongst each other.

715
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:13,040
So we don't know what's going on.

716
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,480
We just see the doctor taking the baby, bringing them to like the other side of the room.

717
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:17,940
Right.

718
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,280
The baby's not crying yet.

719
00:36:19,860 --> 00:36:20,200
Right.

720
00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:20,620
Right.

721
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:21,340
Oh no.

722
00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:21,740
Yeah.

723
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,220
The baby's not.

724
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:25,480
So I'm, I'm like, oh my God, something's wrong.

725
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,780
Then I hear the crying.

726
00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:27,460
So, okay.

727
00:36:27,460 --> 00:36:28,060
I got that.

728
00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:28,960
So right.

729
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,000
Like you said, it's 15 seconds.

730
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,260
It lasts in your mind three days.

731
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,340
It's, it's, it's, it's eternity.

732
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:35,640
Right.

733
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,640
So obviously you hear the crying.

734
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:39,460
So it's not that, then like you're freaking out.

735
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:42,880
Then I hear, then I hear somebody going, oh, it's, it's two and a half weeks.

736
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:43,540
Early.

737
00:36:43,580 --> 00:36:45,360
The doctor goes, oh, okay.

738
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,340
And that told him, okay.

739
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,020
His lungs are probably.

740
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:48,640
Yeah.

741
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,860
That's a big difference.

742
00:36:49,940 --> 00:36:50,080
Right.

743
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:50,820
It's a huge difference.

744
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:55,060
So it went from real, you know, like, oh my God, let's figure this out.

745
00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:58,000
Five to about, oh, okay.

746
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,320
So it's just a small baby.

747
00:36:59,500 --> 00:36:59,820
Right.

748
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,360
Just a, you know, two, two and a half weeks.

749
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:01,840
Right.

750
00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:03,040
So yes, very scary.

751
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:04,340
So I couldn't even imagine.

752
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:04,940
Yeah.

753
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,140
With John just five days away.

754
00:37:07,260 --> 00:37:08,340
No one's explaining it.

755
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:08,680
Yeah.

756
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:09,640
Yup.

757
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,280
Yup.

758
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:10,880
Yeah.

759
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,520
No, it was great.

760
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,280
So I enjoyed it.

761
00:37:13,660 --> 00:37:14,980
Hopefully you guys did too.

762
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,760
We'll, we'll, we'll have more of that interview coming in the future.

763
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:22,800
Um, but for now we get to move on.

764
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,920
This is only the second time we will have done this segment.

765
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,180
We're going to move on to the diaper diet.

766
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,360
So if you recall, let's get real.

767
00:37:35,020 --> 00:37:38,760
Last time we talked about this, I was there.

768
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:46,600
So the whole idea again is I'm trying to lose weight as Kelly is gaining weight with the baby and trying to stay ahead of it.

769
00:37:46,660 --> 00:37:52,920
So last time I was behind in the race by 1.2 pound.

770
00:37:53,460 --> 00:38:03,620
So I had, she had gained like 12.4 at that point and I had lost 11.2. So I was down by 1.2. So it's been three or four weeks.

771
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:03,920
Okay.

772
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:07,060
And, but there was, I want to qualify.

773
00:38:07,060 --> 00:38:10,460
I want to qualify that there was a Thanksgiving in there.

774
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,160
Now the good part was it was a Thanksgiving at my brother's house.

775
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,000
So there wasn't that much of a challenge.

776
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:16,440
Okay.

777
00:38:17,020 --> 00:38:19,040
But because when it's at home, it's just horrible.

778
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,900
But anyway, so I avoided a lot of leftover, that kind of stuff.

779
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,060
So what do you think?

780
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,000
Where, where do you think?

781
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:30,480
I was optimistic that I was going to be able to start catching up maybe.

782
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,820
But as we've talked about, you talked about her appetite has increased.

783
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:50,800
So, and the last time we talked about, she gained 12.1. She had gained, I was behind by 1.2. She had gained at that point 12.4 pounds and I had lost 11.2. Now this is, this is women.

784
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,180
It's different than us.

785
00:38:52,180 --> 00:38:52,340
Right.

786
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,040
I mean, we, we, we go on a diet, we lose like 30 pounds in a week.

787
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,520
And they're like, I lost two pounds in six months.

788
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,780
It's a lot harder for them, but she's putting it, you know, she's going the other direction.

789
00:39:02,020 --> 00:39:03,400
Gaining could be a lot easier.

790
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,880
Again, I have not seen her.

791
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,140
So do not, do not take this like offensive.

792
00:39:07,380 --> 00:39:09,080
Like this is tough.

793
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,220
Cause yeah, you haven't seen her.

794
00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:10,620
Not seen her.

795
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:16,660
I'm going to say from what you're telling me, the, the, the eating and stuff, I'm going to say she probably gained three pounds.

796
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:17,800
Oh no.

797
00:39:18,260 --> 00:39:18,720
Oh really?

798
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:19,600
Yeah.

799
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,160
So more the game.

800
00:39:21,260 --> 00:39:21,480
Yeah.

801
00:39:21,540 --> 00:39:27,100
So now the, you might be in trouble.

802
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,080
I'm now behind by nine pounds.

803
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:35,340
Oh, and I still lost another three.

804
00:39:36,940 --> 00:39:41,200
So she went, she is now up 23.2 pounds.

805
00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:41,740
Okay.

806
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,700
And I am nine pounds behind.

807
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,320
So I've lost a little over 14.

808
00:39:48,460 --> 00:39:50,860
So both of you, it's good.

809
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:51,780
I'm good for her.

810
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:52,340
Yeah.

811
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,140
Like she, I think she's like, she's doing very well.

812
00:39:55,140 --> 00:39:55,920
She's doing very well.

813
00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:58,240
It's not like she doesn't, she isn't blowing up.

814
00:39:58,240 --> 00:39:59,760
She's got a nice little baby bump.

815
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:00,620
It's been good.

816
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:12,840
Now, this last, the last week, and we'll talk about some of the challenges when we get into the next, her, her, her eating has changed a little bit, but yeah, so that, that's where we are right now.

817
00:40:12,940 --> 00:40:14,680
She's plus 20.

818
00:40:15,340 --> 00:40:16,860
23.2. 23.

819
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,740
And I said three pounds.

820
00:40:18,860 --> 00:40:21,080
So I was off by a lot.

821
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:21,400
Yeah.

822
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:25,860
Well, over the course of a month in this stage of the pregnancy, this is when you start to put on the weight.

823
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,540
That's awesome.

824
00:40:26,540 --> 00:40:29,800
So, yeah, so she's doing well, but, but I got a tough road to home.

825
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,260
I, yeah, I do have to say, I did see her last week.

826
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:32,480
Right.

827
00:40:32,980 --> 00:40:33,540
After the show.

828
00:40:33,620 --> 00:40:33,800
Yeah.

829
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:34,280
Yeah, you did.

830
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,200
And she looked good.

831
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,320
So I guess I didn't.

832
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:36,500
Yeah.

833
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,780
So it's all being Kelly.

834
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:39,460
It's all baby.

835
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:39,780
Yeah.

836
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,820
So congratulate to you too.

837
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,620
I mean, I'm telling you, and we talked about this before.

838
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:49,240
I did not do any losing weight when my wife was pregnant.

839
00:40:49,460 --> 00:40:49,940
Both times.

840
00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:51,500
There was no losing weight.

841
00:40:51,740 --> 00:40:54,380
It has been a little, little by little.

842
00:40:54,380 --> 00:40:58,780
Hopefully I can, I don't know if I'm able to catch up, but we'll see.

843
00:40:59,140 --> 00:40:59,240
Yeah.

844
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,620
But I'm down, I'm down nine.

845
00:41:00,860 --> 00:41:04,640
So you have any weight loss tips for aging fathers?

846
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:05,640
Let me know.

847
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:06,100
Yeah.

848
00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:07,260
But we'll see.

849
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,580
So that is the diaper diet.

850
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,140
And now we will move on to what just happened.

851
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:21,140
So in the last week, lots of little things that again, pregnancy wise, not a lot going on right now.

852
00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:22,140
No, kind of slow.

853
00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:22,420
Yeah.

854
00:41:22,420 --> 00:41:26,780
Now, next week, we're going to have some more doctor's appointment stuff.

855
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:27,380
That'll be fine.

856
00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:28,740
Sure.

857
00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:31,080
Something like that.

858
00:41:32,980 --> 00:41:45,360
So what one interesting thing that has happened in the last week there, there's always, as you know, every time you come here, there's a stack of packages from Amazon.

859
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,240
I just took a photo.

860
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,340
I laughed.

861
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,660
I took a photo.

862
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:49,860
There's a lot.

863
00:41:49,980 --> 00:41:51,160
I might just, I'll share that.

864
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:52,160
I'll send it to you.

865
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,700
Part of this is a function of, of just the baby and stuff.

866
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,500
The other part is we do a lot of our Christmas shopping online.

867
00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:03,900
Sure.

868
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,100
And things are just showing up.

869
00:42:06,220 --> 00:42:10,660
So I can't, if it says Kelly on the package, I know could be mine.

870
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:11,120
Gotcha.

871
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:12,520
Could be someone else's.

872
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,160
You don't want to open it.

873
00:42:13,180 --> 00:42:14,240
But I can't take any chances.

874
00:42:14,420 --> 00:42:16,660
So I just leave a stack and I'm like, okay.

875
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,940
And then they go into the guest room.

876
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:19,220
Sure.

877
00:42:19,220 --> 00:42:25,680
So the guest room is literally, you'll have to look, it's full, but big box shows up.

878
00:42:25,980 --> 00:42:26,080
Okay.

879
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,080
And I'm like, what the heck is this?

880
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:34,480
And, and I ask, and Kelly says, oh, that might be the chair.

881
00:42:35,180 --> 00:42:36,660
I'm like chair.

882
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:44,120
So I open it up and Kelly's sister is clearly going to be a very enthusiastic.

883
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:45,100
Oh yeah.

884
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:45,640
Aunt.

885
00:42:48,660 --> 00:42:50,700
And she's like, you gotta look at it.

886
00:42:51,260 --> 00:42:53,020
This is a Snoopy chair.

887
00:42:54,020 --> 00:42:55,760
It's, it is custom.

888
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:56,720
Of course.

889
00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:59,520
Has the baby's name on the chair.

890
00:42:59,740 --> 00:43:02,340
It's like white and red, like Snoopy's dog house.

891
00:43:02,420 --> 00:43:02,680
Sure.

892
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:09,560
And it's like a child size, but like for a three-year-old to sit in like a, like a bark lounger, like it's, it's, it's adorable.

893
00:43:09,980 --> 00:43:11,460
You gotta store this for the next three years.

894
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,860
You know, I'm like, where do we put it?

895
00:43:14,980 --> 00:43:15,380
Thanks.

896
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,560
And Kelly, I mean, this is like, I told her she's cut off.

897
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,180
Like she can't, she has to stop, but it's, it's adorable.

898
00:43:22,580 --> 00:43:24,220
At least have gifts that are age appropriate.

899
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,280
Already, still not even born yet and already has custom furniture.

900
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:28,780
Yeah.

901
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:29,600
You're wow.

902
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,780
Well, you'll probably find a little place in the room, right?

903
00:43:33,460 --> 00:43:33,860
Sure.

904
00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:34,780
Yeah.

905
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,360
Or three years later.

906
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,800
In her dorm.

907
00:43:38,060 --> 00:43:38,640
Like, I don't know.

908
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,120
It's cute.

909
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:41,100
It's going to be adorable.

910
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:43,440
So there's, there is that.

911
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:44,360
That's funny.

912
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:44,600
Yeah.

913
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:54,520
You're going to, you're going to see, but they've already, well, they have, uh, she has brothers that have children or at least one brother who has, who has two.

914
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:56,960
So this is the first time the sister is probably very close.

915
00:43:57,060 --> 00:44:00,400
And this is the first, she doesn't have a, she doesn't have a kids herself.

916
00:44:00,580 --> 00:44:02,300
So this is different, right?

917
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,480
The sister, the sister.

918
00:44:03,660 --> 00:44:03,840
Yes.

919
00:44:03,940 --> 00:44:04,340
That's the thing.

920
00:44:04,420 --> 00:44:04,660
Yeah.

921
00:44:04,740 --> 00:44:05,920
So you got to watch out for her.

922
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,640
Cause she's going to have gifts all over your house.

923
00:44:07,660 --> 00:44:09,000
I'm sure it'll be, it'll be good.

924
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:09,460
Yeah.

925
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:11,040
But that's super cute.

926
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:11,300
Yeah.

927
00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:11,840
Super cute.

928
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,360
So we had that.

929
00:44:13,820 --> 00:44:19,080
The thing I thought when I always, I will talk with Kelly before we record these.

930
00:44:19,220 --> 00:44:22,400
So what's, what, what do we talk about from this week?

931
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,840
Like, what do you think are the notable?

932
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:29,000
And she's like, well, she's been moving and grooving, moving and grooving.

933
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:30,960
So we've been moving and grooving.

934
00:44:31,060 --> 00:44:35,740
There's a lot of activity in there and on a kind of a regular schedule.

935
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:38,520
So that, that has been good.

936
00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:40,180
I was going to, no, I was going to say this.

937
00:44:40,180 --> 00:44:51,240
Kelly had noticed certain things that are like on TV or music that the baby moves more or, you know, is there something that's triggering it more than other things?

938
00:44:51,340 --> 00:44:54,440
I don't know if she has, has noticed anything like that.

939
00:44:54,580 --> 00:44:54,940
Not yet.

940
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:55,340
Okay.

941
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,060
But she's noticing that there's kind of typical behavior at certain times of day.

942
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,000
Yep.

943
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,960
She does Pilates for a little while.

944
00:45:03,980 --> 00:45:06,220
But so there's that, that stuff.

945
00:45:06,220 --> 00:45:19,560
The, the, the bad thing is this week unrelated to the, well, I guess tangentially related to the, the pregnancy, but she's had a really bad cold this week and she can't take anything.

946
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,000
Right.

947
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:21,880
So she can't take, she's had a sore throat.

948
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,680
She's got a cough.

949
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,080
She can't take, can't take any cough medicine.

950
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,020
She can't do any of that.

951
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:33,320
So she's been having a hard time and it's, I will, this is one, this is a very strange thing.

952
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:40,220
And I almost, I feel bad even bringing it up, but I'm going to, because it's funny or at least it's a little funny.

953
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,880
Because we have a podcast and we talk about everything.

954
00:45:42,220 --> 00:45:45,560
The first time this ever happened, we were, we were in London.

955
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:46,800
We had gone on a trip to London.

956
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,220
Okay.

957
00:45:47,580 --> 00:45:49,560
It was in the, it was around this time of year.

958
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:55,980
And so we're going to all these London, there's all these Christmas markets and beautiful, it's a great city.

959
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:03,140
And so we're out in the cold and, and, and spending time and she came down with a little bit of a cold.

960
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,860
So we're staying, we're staying in this place and Knight's Bridge.

961
00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:08,620
It's a really nice part of London.

962
00:46:09,980 --> 00:46:14,860
And we're there and she's, we just, she needed some cold medicine.

963
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:17,560
So we go to, there's a drug store on the corner.

964
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,240
We go down there and the, you don't think about this, but you're in another country.

965
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:22,600
Right.

966
00:46:22,620 --> 00:46:24,540
There's no like NyQuil.

967
00:46:25,060 --> 00:46:25,320
Sure.

968
00:46:25,380 --> 00:46:26,760
It's all these weird brands.

969
00:46:26,860 --> 00:46:26,980
Right.

970
00:46:27,020 --> 00:46:27,760
There's stuff, right.

971
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,180
So there's this thing called night nurse.

972
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,440
Right.

973
00:46:31,540 --> 00:46:31,920
Okay.

974
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,160
And we were asking the girl at the counter and they're like, yeah, that's the closest thing to night, whatever.

975
00:46:36,540 --> 00:46:37,020
Night nurse.

976
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:46,480
So she takes it, we go to sleep and, and I keep waking up to her making these noises.

977
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,620
These like literally, and it's not like a cold noise, like a snore.

978
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:51,000
Right.

979
00:46:51,140 --> 00:46:54,720
It's like a, like, like.

980
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:55,820
Whining, like a.

981
00:46:55,820 --> 00:46:58,320
Like non-verbal complaining.

982
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,020
Oh, like in pain.

983
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:05,560
Like, like these whiny sounds.

984
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Oh, okay.

985
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:07,680
But it's like, it's disconcerting.

986
00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:09,240
I'm like, I'm like, are you okay?

987
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:10,580
And she's like, she has no idea.

988
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:13,180
She's asleep, but she's making these noises.

989
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,380
And I attributed that to the, to the night nurse.

990
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,280
So we're like, we're never taking that again.

991
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:19,760
No.

992
00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:21,780
So never hasn't.

993
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,560
Now this was a few years ago.

994
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,580
We were in London like three, four years ago.

995
00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:30,760
Has not happened since, but it was not the night nurse.

996
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:33,300
Apparently the last couple of nights.

997
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,140
The nurse is back?

998
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:34,620
Yeah.

999
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:37,020
It's the weirdest thing.

1000
00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:44,300
She will just like, as soon as she falls asleep, make these little squeaky noises.

1001
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:50,120
So when I first got married, Trina would talk in her sleep.

1002
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:51,480
I did not know this.

1003
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,120
Okay.

1004
00:47:52,620 --> 00:47:52,820
Right.

1005
00:47:52,820 --> 00:48:03,520
So I would freak out because there was conversations in bed and I'm thinking, are, are, are we doing talk time now?

1006
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,540
Like, do we, I thought we were napping and I'd turn around and she would be asleep.

1007
00:48:07,660 --> 00:48:10,620
Like you said, and I'm like, Oh, she's a talker.

1008
00:48:10,980 --> 00:48:11,120
Yeah.

1009
00:48:11,380 --> 00:48:12,480
She's one of those.

1010
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:12,860
Yeah.

1011
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:14,640
And she did it for a while.

1012
00:48:14,660 --> 00:48:15,620
Did they make sense?

1013
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,380
No.

1014
00:48:16,540 --> 00:48:16,860
Okay.

1015
00:48:17,020 --> 00:48:17,780
No, no.

1016
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,340
It was clear.

1017
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:19,840
Yeah.

1018
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,060
I mean, I knew you could hear what you were saying.

1019
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,480
You had no idea what it was completely.

1020
00:48:24,780 --> 00:48:26,760
And for some reason, I don't know.

1021
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:32,200
I could be in my head screwing this up, but I don't know if the pregnancy changed it.

1022
00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:32,860
She does.

1023
00:48:32,980 --> 00:48:33,980
She doesn't do it anymore.

1024
00:48:34,660 --> 00:48:35,140
You know why?

1025
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:35,940
Cause she's happy.

1026
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,220
Now she's happy.

1027
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,240
Before she was like, who am I in bed with?

1028
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,820
She was confused.

1029
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:50,380
And another thing about pregnancy, my wife, all her life, we got married up to the point where she got pregnant.

1030
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,660
Her hair was, you couldn't even curl it.

1031
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,320
It was just straight hair.

1032
00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:57,920
I know you probably got straight.

1033
00:48:58,060 --> 00:48:58,320
That's it.

1034
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:58,960
Really?

1035
00:48:59,100 --> 00:48:59,860
She would curl it.

1036
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,180
Like if we were going out to a dance or a wedding or whatever it was, she would curl it within like an hour.

1037
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,760
It's straight hair.

1038
00:49:06,940 --> 00:49:07,100
Right.

1039
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:13,900
And she gets pregnant and she has curly hair from that moment on 23 years now.

1040
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:14,300
Really?

1041
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,640
Plus she's never, her hair never straightened out again.

1042
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:18,800
It turned curly.

1043
00:49:18,980 --> 00:49:19,760
That's interesting.

1044
00:49:20,060 --> 00:49:21,140
The whole thing changed.

1045
00:49:21,380 --> 00:49:27,920
When I first met her to, like I said, to when she got pregnant straight hair, straight hair.

1046
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:28,960
That's interesting.

1047
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:29,780
Yeah.

1048
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:30,880
Things change.

1049
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:31,740
So I don't know.

1050
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,100
What do you, what do you think that you think she's, is she trying to talk?

1051
00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:37,180
No, like she is.

1052
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:45,700
So like in the beginning when we were first together, she would do the talking thing, but it was like in the morning, like right when you're getting her wake up.

1053
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:51,440
And I discovered because she would say things that made absolute, again, clear as a bell.

1054
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:51,720
Right.

1055
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,180
But it may just made no sense.

1056
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,540
And that was, it was like when you're in that twilight of waking up.

1057
00:49:58,540 --> 00:50:00,320
Cause so that was that.

1058
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,380
But this thing was only happened when we were in London.

1059
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,740
And now this, this time.

1060
00:50:04,860 --> 00:50:05,920
And both times sick.

1061
00:50:06,380 --> 00:50:06,680
Yes.

1062
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,660
Sick with a cold.

1063
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:08,160
With a cold.

1064
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:09,260
Like a sore throat.

1065
00:50:09,580 --> 00:50:11,120
This time there's no medicine at all in her.

1066
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,600
No, she can't have anything.

1067
00:50:12,820 --> 00:50:13,860
So it's not, it's not.

1068
00:50:13,860 --> 00:50:15,820
No night nurse.

1069
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:16,320
Huh?

1070
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,040
So yeah.

1071
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,620
So it's, it's gotten better.

1072
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:23,260
But to the point where the one, like I had, I crammed in earplugs.

1073
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:23,880
Really?

1074
00:50:24,180 --> 00:50:24,820
I, it was way.

1075
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,220
And I sleep pretty soundly and I had to put them in her.

1076
00:50:28,340 --> 00:50:30,140
It was, it was, I wasn't getting any sleep.

1077
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:36,640
Come says the man who rattles the world when he used to sleep.

1078
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:45,340
So in my defense, uh, what inside was referring to is we had gone, we had gone out.

1079
00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:47,740
We had gone to see a, to a formula one race in Montreal.

1080
00:50:48,340 --> 00:50:51,660
We shared a room with, with another friend.

1081
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,780
And I remember I snore a lot.

1082
00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:56,940
I always did snored.

1083
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,100
I was not, I thought it was just like, I snore.

1084
00:50:59,240 --> 00:50:59,580
So what?

1085
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:00,700
And you told us you go up.

1086
00:51:00,780 --> 00:51:03,500
I said, I warned him that would happen.

1087
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:09,160
That was the way when I would have to travel in the type of work that I did with retail, you'd have to go to meetings.

1088
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:14,460
And that was the way I always got a single instead of having to bunk with somebody because I snore.

1089
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,880
They like, if you put somebody with me, they're not going to get any sleep.

1090
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:21,600
Cause I snore like a tractor and that would always get me up.

1091
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:22,640
So I, I warned them.

1092
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:29,100
But I remember the next morning we woke up and you said something to the effect of, you don't snore, you die a little.

1093
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,120
I sure did.

1094
00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:54,180
Because for some reason I, I, I thought I was going to sleep that night and I went to bed and I had to, I got woken up by, by this sound and I, I literally could not close my eyes and I just stared at him going, I'm, he's going to die tonight.

1095
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,060
It was, I don't know if he knows that or not.

1096
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:03,500
Not long after that, my doctor suggested that I get a sleep study done.

1097
00:52:03,580 --> 00:52:03,900
Yes.

1098
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,520
Cause she's like, do you snore?

1099
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:05,860
Yeah.

1100
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,020
Do you ever wake up?

1101
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:07,520
Yeah.

1102
00:52:08,260 --> 00:52:10,400
So did your friend ever think you were going to die?

1103
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:10,820
Yeah.

1104
00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:19,160
So I did this, I do the sleep test and they, they tell you that like, I think the number is maybe 10 or 15 an hour, 10 or an hour.

1105
00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:25,040
I was having, I was having like 65, like every minute my airway was closing.

1106
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:27,300
She's like, oh yeah, you need to, you need a CPAP.

1107
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,240
So I've been, I have a CPAP that I've been using, but it's nice and quiet.

1108
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,060
Oh no, no, no.

1109
00:52:32,060 --> 00:52:32,240
Yeah, yeah.

1110
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:32,500
You're good.

1111
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:36,840
That, that is something that never has been inflicted upon.

1112
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,380
Upon Kelly.

1113
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,740
I've had a CPAP since before we met.

1114
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:53,020
That story comes back in my mind every time I hear like a, you know, somebody snoring or something that immediately goes back to that hotel room and you just, and the other guy, our other friend's sleeping like a baby.

1115
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:53,860
Yeah, it didn't bother him.

1116
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:54,400
Didn't even.

1117
00:52:55,660 --> 00:52:58,780
Cause the rest, the rest of the world doesn't know.

1118
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,020
No, me, I'm like staring at him going, I'll be here if anything happens to you, my friend.

1119
00:53:03,540 --> 00:53:05,700
I will be ready to pounce on your chest.

1120
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:06,260
Yeah.

1121
00:53:07,060 --> 00:53:07,980
It was some ribs.

1122
00:53:08,140 --> 00:53:08,720
It was bad.

1123
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,360
It was, but no, I'm like, that's the thing.

1124
00:53:11,420 --> 00:53:15,880
That's the good part now is with a CPAP, you, you know, you have, I don't, you have different kinds.

1125
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,300
I have one that's a full mass.

1126
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,600
It covers my nose and my mouth.

1127
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:19,720
I have headgear.

1128
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,340
It's fantastic.

1129
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:22,400
But I put it on there and it's nice and quiet.

1130
00:53:22,700 --> 00:53:25,600
But when the thing that's, the thing is it's pumping air.

1131
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,380
It's, it's kind of like inflating your airway so it doesn't collapse.

1132
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:37,120
So because I want to get away from the sound, I've got earplugs in, I put on my CPAP and then I can pull, I can pull the covers up over my head.

1133
00:53:37,220 --> 00:53:38,560
Cause it's like a snorkel.

1134
00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:40,120
It's like, it's feeding you air.

1135
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:49,240
So I'm literally like giving myself a Dutch oven so I can get away from the sound.

1136
00:53:49,420 --> 00:53:50,120
Oh my God.

1137
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:50,800
You got headphones.

1138
00:53:51,140 --> 00:53:53,160
You got a mask on your face.

1139
00:53:53,220 --> 00:53:54,900
You got Dutch oven.

1140
00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:55,660
It's a, we're a wreck.

1141
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,420
Oh, we're going to have a child.

1142
00:53:57,580 --> 00:53:59,840
How did, oh God, it's so good.

1143
00:54:00,380 --> 00:54:01,480
Oh, I'm not laughing.

1144
00:54:01,620 --> 00:54:02,560
I'm, I'm just laughing.

1145
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:02,880
Yeah.

1146
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,100
You just, you don't even see me.

1147
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,180
There's just a big bump.

1148
00:54:05,260 --> 00:54:05,880
That's so good.

1149
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,420
And a hose for the CPAP.

1150
00:54:08,020 --> 00:54:08,300
That's it.

1151
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,600
So there's a vacuum in my head.

1152
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,340
That's it.

1153
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,420
Oh, you just hear the little whoosh, the whoosh of the CPAP.

1154
00:54:16,420 --> 00:54:17,140
God, I love Kelly.

1155
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,740
That's, she's fantastic.

1156
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:21,320
She just looks, you can go, you need to impregnate me.

1157
00:54:22,660 --> 00:54:28,300
I'm just, I'm hoping, I'm hoping that she's going to feel better with the cold stuff.

1158
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,540
But very interesting about that.

1159
00:54:30,620 --> 00:54:31,640
So there's, there's that.

1160
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:32,520
So yeah.

1161
00:54:32,740 --> 00:54:34,660
And yeah, I'm really hoping the talking goes away.

1162
00:54:34,740 --> 00:54:36,240
It is very disconcerting.

1163
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,480
It is just.

1164
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,160
Carlo was not that right.

1165
00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:40,680
He was still a little wrong.

1166
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,380
Shut up, go to bed.

1167
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:43,520
That's it.

1168
00:54:43,820 --> 00:54:46,140
So there's, there was that.

1169
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:55,620
Then the one thing we did in between her not feeling well, we have, we have, and I wanted to ask about kind of Christmas traditions.

1170
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,740
One Christmas tradition that we have since we moved here.

1171
00:54:59,740 --> 00:55:03,620
We moved into the house that we live in now, where the studio is here.

1172
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:07,980
We've been here for, well, one, two, three, four.

1173
00:55:08,940 --> 00:55:10,820
This will be our fifth Christmas.

1174
00:55:11,580 --> 00:55:12,740
Yeah, it doesn't seem like that long.

1175
00:55:13,940 --> 00:55:29,140
But somewhere or another, I got the idea back in the first year, the first Christmas, that we would go by, because we have kind of a big yard, and we went and bought a little Christmas, like a bald Christmas tree.

1176
00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:33,900
From Hafer's, we went to a local, local place, picked out a little Christmas tree.

1177
00:55:34,260 --> 00:55:39,960
And I set it up kind of in our backyard, where we can see it from the roof off the deck.

1178
00:55:40,140 --> 00:55:42,140
And put, put little Christmas lights on it.

1179
00:55:42,220 --> 00:55:44,180
And then in the spring, I plant it.

1180
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:44,860
Oh, okay.

1181
00:55:44,860 --> 00:55:46,720
And I've been planting them along the driveway.

1182
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:47,420
Christmas tree.

1183
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,840
So now we have four Christmas trees, because every year we do that.

1184
00:55:50,940 --> 00:55:52,220
So we went and got our Christmas tree.

1185
00:55:52,300 --> 00:55:52,480
Okay.

1186
00:55:52,740 --> 00:55:56,280
And we were thinking like, this will be something that we're going to get to do.

1187
00:55:56,340 --> 00:55:56,680
Absolutely.

1188
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,140
With the baby, every year we'll go, and it'll be a fun thing.

1189
00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:01,160
So now it's just the two of us.

1190
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,800
We go and we pick out the tree.

1191
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:08,060
But so we'll have that tradition for Christmas, for every Christmas, we'll do that.

1192
00:56:08,180 --> 00:56:08,580
That's cute.

1193
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:09,860
I like that.

1194
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:10,680
And then you, it's like a reset.

1195
00:56:10,820 --> 00:56:11,580
Then you plant it.

1196
00:56:11,860 --> 00:56:12,680
So now it becomes, yeah.

1197
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:13,640
Yeah, so now it's good.

1198
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:20,040
Now it's, we're just in the point, the first one I planted way out toward the road, is now getting to be big enough that I can't put lights.

1199
00:56:20,260 --> 00:56:23,060
Like, it took like four net lights to light it.

1200
00:56:23,060 --> 00:56:26,800
So I'm going to, but that's why I put Christmas lights on them.

1201
00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:29,460
Do you guys use real trees in the house, or do you have a fake?

1202
00:56:29,460 --> 00:56:31,780
No, in the house we have two fake ones.

1203
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:35,540
Doesn't say you can chop these down and use them now in your house.

1204
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,780
We, you could do, there's a service.

1205
00:56:37,980 --> 00:56:39,220
I was telling my brother about this.

1206
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,400
The new thing for Christmas trees, instead of, if you want a real tree.

1207
00:56:44,540 --> 00:56:44,780
Okay.

1208
00:56:45,220 --> 00:56:48,340
What they do is, it's a subscription service.

1209
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:48,900
Of course.

1210
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:50,700
So they bring you a tree.

1211
00:56:50,860 --> 00:56:53,640
You pick a tree, a bald tree, root ball.

1212
00:56:53,860 --> 00:56:54,720
They bring it.

1213
00:56:55,340 --> 00:56:56,500
You decorate it.

1214
00:56:56,860 --> 00:56:57,420
It's your tree.

1215
00:56:57,860 --> 00:57:00,160
Then after Christmas, you call them up.

1216
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:01,280
They come and get the tree.

1217
00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:02,920
They bring it back.

1218
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,020
They plant it again.

1219
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,600
It grows.

1220
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,100
Next year you get the same tree back.

1221
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:08,900
It's a little bigger.

1222
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:09,880
Oh my God.

1223
00:57:10,380 --> 00:57:11,980
And you do that year after year after year.

1224
00:57:12,060 --> 00:57:13,180
That's your Christmas tree.

1225
00:57:13,340 --> 00:57:17,600
And then when it's too big for your house, they bring it and you plant it.

1226
00:57:17,940 --> 00:57:19,140
I think that's great.

1227
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:19,940
That's a cute idea.

1228
00:57:20,060 --> 00:57:20,760
That's a very cute idea.

1229
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,180
I have no idea what that costs and I will never do it.

1230
00:57:23,340 --> 00:57:23,600
Probably a lot.

1231
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,960
But you're kind of doing it.

1232
00:57:25,020 --> 00:57:28,080
Well, I'm doing, but we, we get it and we plant that in the spring, like right away.

1233
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,940
But yeah, so there's all kinds of fun.

1234
00:57:30,940 --> 00:57:31,640
And it's so funny.

1235
00:57:32,060 --> 00:57:37,000
That tradition that you started is going to, as awesome as it is, you look forward to it.

1236
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:38,600
When you put the child now.

1237
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:39,820
Oh, it's going to be so much fun.

1238
00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:40,260
Yeah.

1239
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,340
It changes that whole thing.

1240
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,120
Cause then it's going to be like, that's her first tree.

1241
00:57:44,220 --> 00:57:44,420
That's awesome.

1242
00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:45,380
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1243
00:57:45,380 --> 00:57:45,560
Yeah.

1244
00:57:45,660 --> 00:57:46,020
First tree.

1245
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:46,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1246
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:47,100
It's going to be fun.

1247
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:48,080
That will be fun.

1248
00:57:48,180 --> 00:58:00,360
So are there, I'm, I'm particularly interested in the, are there things that you did with the boys when they were little, like that we came like, what were the Christmas things that you did with them when they were little?

1249
00:58:00,620 --> 00:58:11,240
The one thing Trina always make sure that you keep these traditions going because it's, you know, if it was me, I'd probably give up a little bit.

1250
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:12,920
And I know that about me.

1251
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,120
That's why you have a partner that can pick up what you.

1252
00:58:16,380 --> 00:58:18,500
I, in this situation, I'm in our relationship.

1253
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:19,200
I'm Trina.

1254
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:19,700
You're Trina.

1255
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,900
I'm the one who was like, we, this is something.

1256
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:30,440
So Christmas, you know, the cinnamon rolls, there's the orange, orange cinnamon rolls, orange flavor, orange, orange flames.

1257
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:30,780
Okay.

1258
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:31,140
Okay.

1259
00:58:31,460 --> 00:58:33,400
So every year, I don't know why, how it started.

1260
00:58:33,420 --> 00:58:34,940
Maybe when she was young, they did it.

1261
00:58:35,020 --> 00:58:35,540
I'm not sure.

1262
00:58:35,940 --> 00:58:37,540
She'll remind me in the morning.

1263
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,140
She'll bake these.

1264
00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:44,080
So we wake up to the smell of the cinnamon orangey kind of smell.

1265
00:58:44,260 --> 00:58:55,600
So we all know now we get our presents Christmas Eve with our family, but then we keep ours for the kids at the house and we open up our presents.

1266
00:58:55,780 --> 00:59:05,440
We have our hot cocoa, our coffee, the pastries that she just made, and we'll open up the gifts and then you'll play around a little bit.

1267
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,760
Then we'll all get ready and we go to church.

1268
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:08,720
Awesome.

1269
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:09,200
Yeah.

1270
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:10,680
So that's a neat, that's a neat thing.

1271
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:11,340
That was a neat thing.

1272
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:20,880
And then as we got older, now our traditions now, not now, but in the last probably decade or so is we all go to midnight mass.

1273
00:59:23,380 --> 00:59:25,040
So that is our tradition.

1274
00:59:25,220 --> 00:59:25,600
That's neat.

1275
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:41,300
So now that's one of the things that Kelly talks about is she's from Buffalo and she was, and she was saying that when, when growing up, they would always go to midnight mass at the Basilica.

1276
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,880
There's a beautiful Basilica in Buffalo.

1277
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,420
I've never been.

1278
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:43,940
Have you been there?

1279
00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:46,180
No, but I mean, we have one in Syria.

1280
00:59:46,540 --> 00:59:51,440
So they do, they would have like a full choir and all the, all the music.

1281
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,220
And she's like, we should, we should do that.

1282
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,800
So you must go to midnight mass at Pompeii.

1283
00:59:57,020 --> 01:00:00,320
I have been to midnight mass there not in a long time.

1284
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,180
That it's a beautiful, beautiful church.

1285
01:00:03,780 --> 01:00:05,480
And they do all the points set.

1286
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:06,460
It's like, it's gorgeous.

1287
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:07,800
Absolutely gorgeous.

1288
01:00:07,940 --> 01:00:08,060
Yeah.

1289
01:00:08,460 --> 01:00:09,340
So that's our tradition.

1290
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:10,720
That's neat.

1291
01:00:11,020 --> 01:00:11,980
And it's so funny.

1292
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:19,940
You think these things, I think you might think these things don't matter, but then you stop and the kids go, wait a minute, why are we going to midnight mass?

1293
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:20,320
Wait a minute.

1294
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:26,600
Where's the, you know, the hot cocoa or the orange scented going through the house.

1295
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:29,520
So it does, you gotta keep doing it.

1296
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:36,220
It means so much for the kids and yourselves, because you're going to look back and go, oh my God, we used to do this, that, and the other.

1297
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:37,560
And I miss it.

1298
01:00:37,740 --> 01:00:43,680
And you know, but it's, but the midnight mass is probably a great way to start your Christmas.

1299
01:00:43,980 --> 01:00:48,360
I think that it's going to be fun to come up with new traditions.

1300
01:00:48,540 --> 01:00:49,220
The tree is something.

1301
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,720
Then you guys are going to come up with new ones.

1302
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:51,680
Yeah, that's right.

1303
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:54,200
So far, our traditions is a couple.

1304
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,840
We do the one that my favorite is Kelly makes.

1305
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,360
She uses the cinnamon brioche bread and makes French toast.

1306
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,280
See again, food traditions.

1307
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,460
But yeah, traditions are, you got to keep them going.

1308
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:08,120
Yeah.

1309
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,320
And you'll have my, my baby's first or the baby's first tree.

1310
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:12,920
Oh yeah.

1311
01:01:12,980 --> 01:01:13,800
All that stuff.

1312
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:14,400
We have them all.

1313
01:01:14,620 --> 01:01:23,080
And every year, every year when we put the tree up, we have the kids put up their stuff and we go through the pictures that they made in first grade.

1314
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,380
And we can put on the tree and you see all these years.

1315
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:25,780
Yep.

1316
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,980
And it's crazy because, you know, now my son is six foot one and whatever.

1317
01:01:30,420 --> 01:01:32,600
And he goes, the tree looks small.

1318
01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:33,860
I go, no, you're just bigger.

1319
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,280
Same tree.

1320
01:01:35,460 --> 01:01:36,580
Because you're a giant now.

1321
01:01:36,740 --> 01:01:37,280
You're a giant now.

1322
01:01:37,820 --> 01:01:40,400
You used to have to get up on a chair to put the star up.

1323
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:52,640
No, it's funny because we just trimmed the tree the other day and I have this little, it was probably like, it was probably some ornament that my mother got at Kmart.

1324
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:58,040
It was, it's just a little felt, little plastic elf, little guy.

1325
01:01:58,260 --> 01:02:00,020
Then when I was a kid, there was tons of them.

1326
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,280
There was a whole set of them, like one survived and I have that.

1327
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:05,860
That's awesome.

1328
01:02:05,980 --> 01:02:10,800
And that always ends up going on like right at the top of the tree, right at the top of the tree.

1329
01:02:11,060 --> 01:02:11,160
Exactly.

1330
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,240
No, no, we have a lot of those.

1331
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,120
I've always, over the years, I've had it for years and years.

1332
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:16,520
I always put it on.

1333
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:23,240
And then I think Kelly is the only person I've ever let put that on the tree.

1334
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,120
And so she has- Because you're usually the one touching it.

1335
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,220
That was mine.

1336
01:02:29,660 --> 01:02:34,000
And so she has done it and then we were trimming the tree the other day.

1337
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:38,280
She's like, this will be the last time either of us do this because now it'll be up to her.

1338
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,700
And I thought, yeah, that's kind of cool.

1339
01:02:40,860 --> 01:02:47,900
And I'm looking at this thing, I'm like, it's amazing to me how a little piece of plastic can have so much meaning.

1340
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:55,200
I mean, you look at our tree and there's like these pictures and these things that they made in kindergarten and first grade.

1341
01:02:55,300 --> 01:02:55,840
Like, what's that?

1342
01:02:56,060 --> 01:02:57,880
Yeah, it doesn't even look like anything to anyone.

1343
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,440
But to us, it's like gold.

1344
01:02:59,640 --> 01:02:59,960
That's it.

1345
01:02:59,980 --> 01:03:04,200
And I was like, oh my God, that has to be right there in the center where everybody can see it.

1346
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:04,580
Yep.

1347
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,580
But that's, I mean, come on, that's what we have in this life, man.

1348
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:08,860
Yep.

1349
01:03:09,140 --> 01:03:11,140
I mean, you gotta make memories and treasure them.

1350
01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:11,680
Memories like that.

1351
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:12,200
That's true.

1352
01:03:12,660 --> 01:03:16,420
So, well, that kind of covers everything we had to talk about.

1353
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,600
The last thing to talk about is Lullaby Land.

1354
01:03:22,100 --> 01:03:24,480
So this will be our third installment.

1355
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,840
This is going to be a little bit different because after all, it's Christmas time.

1356
01:03:28,060 --> 01:03:31,540
So I wanted to share something a little different.

1357
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:41,420
So several years ago, I had an idea for a song and it was, and we've talked about, I think it was in the very first episode.

1358
01:03:41,420 --> 01:03:49,160
We talked about fathers who have a little bit of a challenge saying, I love you to their children, right?

1359
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,400
We have very common experience with that.

1360
01:03:51,900 --> 01:04:03,580
So I was thinking about the idea of a dad who, even though he feels, you know, very deeply for his children, has a hard time saying, I love you.

1361
01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:23,560
And I had the idea that this dad in the song gets the idea that he's going to pretend he found a note from Santa Claus and he wants to read it to his kids in order to use that as a device to be able to tell his children how he feels.

1362
01:04:24,180 --> 01:04:27,160
So it's not a lullaby, but it's Christmas.

1363
01:04:27,500 --> 01:04:29,040
The song is called Santa Loves You.

1364
01:04:29,860 --> 01:04:32,140
And it's going to play right next.

1365
01:04:32,140 --> 01:04:33,280
I hope you enjoy it.

1366
01:04:33,420 --> 01:04:37,500
More importantly, I hope you have a wonderful Christmas with your family.

1367
01:04:38,220 --> 01:04:40,480
Thank you very much for listening to us again.

1368
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,100
And we will talk to you on New Year's Eve.

1369
01:04:44,340 --> 01:04:45,380
Oh my goodness.

1370
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:46,780
Get the champagne out.

1371
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:22,160
Want to run along to find your friends and play and see what Santa brought them to.

1372
01:05:23,380 --> 01:05:25,480
But maybe you could stay.

1373
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:31,140
I found this note from Santa Claus.

1374
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,000
He must have left last night.

1375
01:05:36,620 --> 01:05:40,160
If you'll stay, I'll read it to you.

1376
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,700
Would that be all right?

1377
01:05:47,640 --> 01:06:00,000
So climb up on my Soon enough, you'll see.

1378
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,960
We'll have so little time to share.

1379
01:06:06,500 --> 01:06:11,480
Now let's see what Santa had to say.

1380
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:31,340
He's been so mean, you hardly can believe how much you've changed and how you've grown since your last Christmas Eve.

1381
01:06:33,220 --> 01:06:40,060
He wishes he could see you more and had the time to play.

1382
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:49,260
But making all the toys this year has left more work than day.

1383
01:06:50,580 --> 01:07:06,870
So each day when his work is through, when you're asleep at night, he peeks into your little room to see that you're all right.

1384
01:07:09,140 --> 01:07:18,840
He's so proud to see how bright and kind and strong you are.

1385
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:25,680
So do your best to dream and trust those dreams will take you far.

1386
01:07:27,970 --> 01:07:33,050
Most of all, remember these few things.

1387
01:07:36,780 --> 01:08:43,240
Be brave, be good, and know that if he only could bring you every last thing on your list, and if there's even one thing that he may try again next year, but until then, Santa loves you and he'll be back when Christmas comes again.

1388
01:08:55,490 --> 01:08:59,710
Well, folks, that's another episode of the Gray Hair and Day Care podcast in the books.

1389
01:09:00,350 --> 01:09:02,670
Thanks very much for tuning in and spending this time with us.

1390
01:09:03,050 --> 01:09:03,870
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1391
01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:10,950
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1392
01:09:11,609 --> 01:09:17,990
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1393
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:19,590
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1394
01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:22,790
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1395
01:09:23,410 --> 01:09:27,569
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1396
01:09:28,270 --> 01:09:32,450
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1397
01:09:32,750 --> 01:09:33,850
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1398
01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:36,210
And now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to bed.