Older Dads, 5-Foot Boat Waves & The $11K Baby Bill! Funny Parenting Comedy: S02E05 Part 1
Welcome back to the parenting podcast for dads where older dads deliver hilarious fatherhood tips and parenting comedy on surviving 5-foot waves and an $11,000 baby bill! Navigating dad life as a Gen X dad brings endless humor in life when your toddler uses the dog bed as a launchpad for her first unassisted steps.
In this episode, Frank and Carlo share essential new dad advice and fatherhood advice for raising kids without losing your sanity. We jump into our "Check, Please" segment, where Frank calculates the true cost of being a dad—surpassing $11,200 on diapers, books, and backwards-installed basement baby locks. Next, Frank unpacks a wild boat trip across Lake Ontario featuring five-foot waves crashing over the roof, an infamous $15 Dubai pistachio cheesecake at the New York State Fair, and the art of "agree and move on" marital diplomacy.
Packed with classic dad humor, reliable baby advice, and unfiltered parent advice, this week proves that toddler milestones and funny parenting go hand-in-hand. Hit subscribe for authentic parenting insights and fatherhood stories you won't hear anywhere else!
Chapter Markers
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0:00 – The "Agree and Move On" Apple Juice Strategy
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1:46 – 19 Months In: Surviving on NBA-Level Toddler Energy
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4:00 – Check, Please: The $11,245 Total Bill
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7:08 – Toddler Book Avalanches & Walking Hazards
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8:25 – Trapped in the Basement: Backwards Babyproofing
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10:02 – Boating to Alexandria Bay & Boldt Castle
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18:18 – Five-Foot Waves: Lake Ontario Survival Mode
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23:36 – Processing Loss: Carlo Reflects on His Father
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28:10 – Three Mile Bay Foam Parties vs. Sylvan Beach
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32:15 – New York State Fair: The $15 Dubai Pistachio Cheesecake
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40:07 – The Dog Bed Launchpad: First Independent Steps!
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41:50 – Fireplace Bluestone Padding & Teddy Bear Bumpers
Links to Products & Services Mentioned
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Resort & Marina: Thousand Islands Yacht Club
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Accommodations: 1000 Islands Harbor Hotel
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Historic Attraction: Boldt Castle
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Fair Dining: Munjed's Restaurant & Lounge
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0:00 The funny thing, this has come up and it's kind of, it's been a little bit of a contentious issue with us because from the beginning, every kid I ever saw, juice, they're always having juice, apple juice. So, in the beginning, there was no juice. Okay. And, and I did, from what I read, the little reading that I did, it was not recommended until they were like a year, or whatever, you weren't supposed to give them juice. Okay. But then once it happened, I'm like, let's, you know, but oh, yeah, we can do that. But then I noticed what, what Kelly will do, and she'll do this with any number of things, but certainly with anything, with the baby where we might disagree, she will just agree and never do it.
0:40 Right. She'll be like, oh, yeah, we should do that. Yeah. And if I don't, and then like a month later, I'll be like, hey, didn't we say we were going to. So she figured you out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Agree with you and move on. Agree and move on. Agree and move on. Agree and move on. Don't fight it. This old man will forget. Yeah, he's not going to know. This is the gray hair and daycare podcast with a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ right in that same range. Your hosts, Frank Cereo and Carlo Russo.
1:23 Welcome back. Here we are once again. Every time I think it's like it's fits and starts now. Like we get a couple, we record a couple of times and then life happens and everything goes by. So we are joining you now. We have good intentions. Oh, yeah, we do. We really like you said, life jumps in and goes, nope. So it's already October. Yeah, it's the second I think we're recording on. But we're very happy to be here. Yes. And have a chance to get caught up as always. I am Frank Cereo. I am 57 years old and my little girl in three days will be 19 months old.
2:08 So it feels strange. Like I was looking back at I was on the computer earlier before you got here and going back through like we've been doing this for a while and so much has happened. Right. And it just seems like it's like a snowball just keeps going faster and faster because you forget that. Yes, she's going on 19 months, but we did the podcast. We started when she was when she was born in March and we started in October. Yeah. So we did we did almost six months before she was born. Yeah. So, yeah. And remember, I always laugh and Kelly enjoys reminding me that we did we did it every week.
2:49 We did this week. How did we do that? Was I not working? Was I? I don't know. I like I don't know how it was even possible. Remotely about that. Yeah. Every week. We're lucky if we can record on average now once a month. Wow. And we were doing it every week and I was at like an editing a new episode. They were coming out every week. Well, your big project wasn't in. No, that's true. That was not your kind of this was your baby. Yeah. Top of the baby. So now you have all these babies. Yes, I have other babies. You're like a basketball player in the NBA. So many babies all over the place. But yeah, so we're we're back here and we're going to since we do this so infrequently, this next one, I'm really interested to see how you do guys can be wise.
3:35 We're going to do for the first time since the baby's first birthday on March 5th of this year. We are going to do a check, please. So, again, I've been so long. I will remind everyone the whole idea behind check, please, is that I'm documenting every expense, not not gifts or things like that, but every kind of everyday expense that goes into supporting my beautiful little girl. Yeah. So that I can hand her a bill, an itemized bill when she turns 18. And the last time we did this on March 5th, we had accumulated up to eight thousand seven hundred and eighty five dollars.
4:23 OK. And seven months ago. Well, yeah. Almost just a few days shy of seven months ago. And again, it's hard to gauge because so that would have been, you know, we're talking about a year plus all the pre-pregnancy stuff. So we're only at a less than nine grand, you know, 15 months in. Yeah. Yeah. All that time. Yeah. Not so bad. But we've been we've been very lucky with clothes and hand-me-downs from from cousins that have been wonderful. Yeah. But so what are your thoughts? It's been almost seven months since the last time we got the summer in there.
5:04 So we so I think you're you're adding like the books and home goods and hardware. Is that part of it all? So this is what I'm looking for. Yeah. This is the total. So it's it would be any books, diapers, you know, any kind of pharmaceutical stuff. OK. You guys are pretty good. I mean, I know you don't throw money around just to throw it around. No, I'm going to say eighty seven, eighty five. I'm going to say twelve, five, twelve, five over the course of those last two years you're improving. You're zeroing in. It's like trace around. You're just getting closer and closer. What do we get this time?
5:45 Eleven thousand two hundred forty five dollars. OK, very close. So we went from eighty seven, eighty five to eleven to forty five. I think the what's pretty impressive is diapers. Fifteen hundred in diapers over the course of her life. Fifteen. OK. Fifteen hundred. Twenty five hundred in furniture. Two thousand in miscellaneous equipment books. Only six hundred dollars, I think, is a gross understatement because there are books everywhere in my house. It's insane. I think she's read all of them. She reads them all repeatedly. Her favorite, her literally her favorite thing to say is read it.
6:27 She will hand us the books and she only wants to get to the part that she's interested in. And then it's the next book. The most dangerous thing she does, honestly, is he'll sit down. She has a little folding chair next to her bookcase. She'll pick out a book. She'll sit down. She'll read the book, throw it down, grab the next one, throw it down. Now when she read it, she we're going to talk about this because like every parent thinks their kid's a genius. Absolutely. Well, every parent? Well, yeah, not every parent. Some. Some know. Some know. Some know it's not working out well for their children. Some know it's not looking great. Majority. But I think the majority, everybody has that. They have an Einstein.
7:07 But I'm like asking, I'm like, what is like my my favorites? I can't tell you how many times in the last few days I have said to Kelly, that's not normal. And it's not. It's a good way. She's driving. It's always a good thing. But yeah, she has like. So we're going to talk about what you reading. Yeah. Like she's she's looking through stuff. But honestly, that's one of the most dangerous things is she started. She has started another big one, started walking around unassisted. OK, finally, she was walking fine, but she always wanted to hold her hand. Now she's tearing around. But so she'll read books and you'll just toss them down on the floor as she's going through them. And then when she stands up, she's sliding around on the books because they're piled up in front of her.
7:49 So you got to be a little careful. But yeah, so I do think the number for for check, please, is probably we're probably not doing a great job. So it is twelve five. I would I would think we are off by at least 10 percent, if not more. Because just by the flow of it's constant, there's always something showing up like what's not some of it's in here. We've had debate since now she is on her kind of free roaming. We've had to baby proof everything. So all the cabinets have these locks. So even the door here, we had to find a special door because most of the baby proof things for the door. I work in the basement where we are right now, and most of the baby proofing things are one sided.
8:33 So if it was keeping her out, it would keep me trapped in the back. So we had to find like put this we found one that's really good and had to use it backwards in order to make it. Yeah. Yeah. Not not keep me trapped in the basement. Oh, but there's a lot. So I do think we're probably not doing the best accounting, but it gives us a ballpark of it. But it's definitely low. It could be could be. Yeah. I wish we could interview our parents when they spent a nickel. Can you imagine? Yeah. The hand-me-downs were tough. Thank God I had no sisters. Yeah, that would have been it. I don't want to wear a bonnet. Eleven two.
9:13 Eleven two. So that's it for our very most recent edition of Check, Please. Don't miss any of the fun. Be sure to subscribe on YouTube. Give us a like. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. Or maybe give us a review wherever you listen. And now we will move into the meat and potatoes of the show. What just happened? So I love this. When we left off, we were leading into a long weekend. We took off in June.
9:53 It was in July. After July 4th. Well, I think it was the beginning of August. Oh, OK. So it was the beginning of August and we had planned a trip to take our boat for a long weekend up to Alexandria Bay. I remember. So and we went on that trip and it was it was a really it was a wonderful trip. It's a beautiful part of the country. If you've ever been, you've been up there, I'm sure. Many times. It's nice. I've been up there many times, but never by boat. That way. Yeah. Right. So we left like we were going to go from a Thursday to a Sunday. But Sunday, the weather was not looking great.
10:35 And the big part of this trip is most of it's on a river because you're on the the Oneida River and then the Oswego River. But then you have to cross Lake Ontario. Lake America. That's right. Which is now Lake of America. It's been so long. They changed the name. They changed the name. So the Lake of America, the crossing, you end up it's about a 40 mile, 45 mile crossing from Oswego to that to the mouth of the St. Lawrence. Yes. And so when you're halfway, you are literally at least 20 miles from shore in any direction. In any direction. Right. So and with that much open water, you have to be very careful.
11:17 So the plan was to get to Oswego the first day, spend the night, and then you leave really early in the morning before the heat starts and the wind starts. And you can usually have a good crossing. But so since the weather wasn't looking great for Sunday, we knew when we left we were going to cut it a day short. Gotcha. But we took the river up. We went through, I think, eight locks, all the way up from where we are here on Oneida Lake, all the way up to Oswego. Got to the marina where we stayed. There's a very nice pier in Oswego. I had reserved a slip for the night. And the baby, you know, the baby loves, she loves being on the boat.
12:00 Her favorite thing is to look for, she loves looking for buoys. She'll be like, buoy. That's hilarious. What color is that one? Green. God. Red. Oh, my God. She's, yeah, it's crazy, this stuff. But yeah, so she really, she really enjoys it. It was interesting. The marina, we get there, and I'm like, man, there's all these fishing boats, like serious, like offshore, like what you would see. Like workers. People who fish on the, people who fish on the ocean, like charter fishing. And I'm like, why is that? Like, I'm surprised that there's this many. And then, so then early in the morning, like I wanted to leave early, like maybe 6, 6.30. So I'm up at 5.30, and there's already boats going out.
12:42 And I'm like, wow, these guys are serious fishermen. And so I come out, and there's the boat next to us, the guy who's getting ready to go. And I started talking to him, and apparently there was a competition. Oh, okay. So these people were from all over the place. Gotcha. They came here because it was like five, it was three days, $5,000 prize each day, and then a $15,000 prize overall. So there were some serious fishermen there. But, you know, we got up. That changes the water, right? All these boats. Well, it's so big. Honestly, we, so they were going out. We got ready, cast off. We go out past the breakwater.
13:23 And as the weather predicted, less than a foot waves, hardly any wind. It was a nice sunny morning as the sun's coming up. So I can just go. And in 10 minutes, we're past all of the fishing boats. Like everybody's gone. Everybody's out of the way. And it was a perfect like 90-minute ride across, and we were in Sackett's Harbor. Nice. And really enjoyed. So we kind of did like a tour moving north. So we stopped in a couple places and went to see. I mean, there's so many beautiful things throughout the Thousand Islands. That whole area is gorgeous. Yeah. We had a great time.
14:04 Baby loved it. And then we stayed the second night. There's a place called the Thousand Islands Yacht Club. Okay. And it's really, we will definitely go back. Beautiful place, huge marina. And it's like a resort. There's a golf course. There's tennis courts. There's a pool. There's a great restaurant and bar. And it's literally like probably 250, 300 yards as the crow flies from Bold Castle. Oh, okay. It's right behind Bold Castle. So you literally idle speed from our slip to Bold Castle is like five minutes on the water.
14:45 Very, very close. And that's like, it's really nice because when you go there, if you're on a boat tour or something, we could pull up and just hang out and hang out and take pictures and really look at things. And it was a beautiful day. So we really enjoyed that whole day and then spent the night there. And then as it would happen, my sister, Paula, was there in Thousand Islands with two friends staying at the Thousand Islands Harbor Hotel. So that night after dinner, they drove over and met us and we hung out on the boat and they got to see the baby. And yeah, great.
15:27 Just a wonderful trip. We really, we had decided then, like before we even left to come home, because we had to then come home. It was Thursday, Thursday night, Thursday up to Oswego. Stayed the night Thursday night, Friday all day, stayed the night Friday night. And then we were going to come home Saturday morning because now we're coming home, I would have to make like an additional 15, 20 mile journey from where we were on the river to the mouth of the river and then the crossing. So we'd already decided though, I think we'll go, we want to go for like a week next year. Go up and spend a week there. Oh, it was beautiful. It was wonderful. It was really, really... Hit more places? Yeah. Or just be able...
16:07 Yeah, because there was like, we saw a bunch of places, but there were places that you could just anchor up and spend the day like we do here on the lake, but they're beautiful. So yeah. That'd be fun. I really want to do that. Unfortunately, although the weather report was nearly identical coming home, when we got to the... So it was a little interesting because this is the biggest river I've ever been on. Gotcha. So it actually has a current. Like the rivers around here are little rivers and there's no appreciable current. This was, you could feel it, right? So as we're leaving, we leave first thing in the morning, quarter to six, maybe 6 a.m. at the latest.
16:52 Sun's coming up and I'm on the water. The whole river, we're mostly alone. Then we start to see a couple. And how long is this on a normal, everything's fine timeframe to get from where you work to home on the boat? It would be, well, I would say an hour. And then the crossing, if the crossing went like it did coming up, an hour and a half. So that's two and a half hours. And then maybe another six hours. So six hours on the river to get back to our... Wow. So maybe eight hours. That's a full workday. Oh yeah. Because again, that's why we broke it up.
17:33 Coming, we did like... You stopped at a point. Most of a day and then spent the night in Oswego and broke it up. So that's a travel. But because we're coming back, we were going to break it up coming back, but now we couldn't because of the weather. Gotcha. Okay. So when we're on the river and headed into the current, the boat felt different. But then we get to the mouth of the river, then there's some rolling waves. Not bad. But I thought, you know what? Once the depth drops off, because once you get a ways out in that lake, it's 350, 400 feet deep. Very deep. So I'm thinking, maybe it will settle down as we go.
18:16 No. So we ended up in... As you get past, as you make the crossing, there's kind of an island that you turn at to head straight for Oswego from where we were. And once I got past that island, it was really rough. And rough to the point that you either had the choice of going slowly and being just up and down five foot waves. Oh. Like waves that you've seen. You actually haven't been there yet. You've seen pictures. But our boat, I think, is eight feet from the waterline to the top, hard top.
19:01 And waves were going over the roof. Oh. It was really, really rough. Yeah. The kind of waves that, yeah, if you took it on the wrong way, it would have been bad. So, but then the choice is either go slow and be up and down and feel sick or go faster and get it over with sooner. But you get pounded on the way. Yeah. So... Wow. Well, what took an hour and a half took about three and a half hours. And you decided to do which of the two? I eventually... Both? I thought I did.
19:42 No, I would have. I should have stayed on plane and just accepted the pounding. Okay. But at one point, like when we left, the baby's still asleep. Okay. In the cabin. Now, the cabin's in the front in the V-berth. So, when she's waking up and the boat is starting to bounce, she can't be in the... She's got to be in the back. Yeah. So, when I stopped to let that happen, that's when all of a sudden now we're up and down and it was not fun. I'm sure Kelly will never do that again. I'm going to say that's going to be a hard sell. Honestly, she got seasick.
20:23 The baby fell back to sleep, right? The baby was fine, but she got seasick. If I had eaten breakfast, I probably would have. You would have lost it. I would have. It was... And honestly, it was just like... But again, beautiful day, sunny, clear. Really? It wasn't that windy. I could see there's a nuclear reactor there in Oswego. I could see the cooling tower 20 miles away. Yeah, wow. So, the visibility was fine, but we were headed straight into the wind, which was creating these waves. So... That's a scary moment. It was not... For hours.
21:03 It was not fun. I just felt so bad because the dogs don't... Oh, yeah, you got the animals, yeah. You got Watson, whose tendency is to try to get to higher ground, which is not what you want to do on a boat that's bouncing around. Sure, sure, sure. So, it was an unpleasant crossing back. Made you a better captain, huh? Maybe. Other than I think the decision I would have... Yeah, what would you have done? I would have not tried, because once we stopped so she could reposition, I tried to take it easy, and that was worse. I tried to go slow and ride the wave. So, you could have sped it up again? I should have gone... I should have just gone...
21:44 Rushed through it. 20 miles an hour and accepted the chop, because otherwise, if you go... You're either going seven miles an hour and it takes three times as long. So, if I hadn't gone as fast as I did, it would have taken us five or six hours. So, how do you sell the family on this next time when the weather was perfect? How do you know that's... Well, this is how. We won't make that crossing. Because the thing that's kind of weird about it is, to get there, it's like, if everything goes great, it's probably a full day, 10 hours maybe, to get there. If everything goes great, buy boat.
22:24 But I can put my boat on the trailer and be there in an hour and a half. So, next year, we will put the boat on the trailer, drive it up there, launch it, spend the week, and then when we want to come home, so then you don't have to make that crossing. Because everything else... On the river, it doesn't matter. If the weather gets choppy, there's enough shelter on the river, you don't have to worry. When you're 20 miles from shore on a lake of that size... Yeah, you got to go through. Yeah. So, yeah. So, it was a little dicey. And it was a little... It made for a long day, because then when we got to Oswego, we stopped, had lunch. But then you got to make nine locks all the way back.
23:07 So, we literally... We left about 6 a.m. from Thousand Islands Yacht Club, and we got back to our slip at 6 p.m. Wow. And it was a long day. It was a long day. But still, beautiful. Like, everything up to that crossing, and after the crossing, was really very nice. We had a great time. And the baby loves... She really loves being on the water. And around that time, unfortunately, you had some... Passing. Yeah. Your dad. My father. Yeah. Yeah. Been struggling for about a year since my mother's passing. Hasn't been a good year and a half for the family. We lost both mom and dad. It's strange when your parents are going through a moment, and the moment can be as long as five years with my mother, it seems like, or just a year with my dad.
23:58 It's so draining for everybody. Yeah. The whole family. Yourself, the caretakers. Life isn't a funny thing. If my father was healthy, and the day before he passed away, we were just out there running around and having dinner, and then all of a sudden, he passes away, it would be like, oh, my God, what's going on? Oh, my God, what a loss. But when there's suffering, and for a while, and the only peace could be maybe, you know, passing on, it helps us to process it. To process it. Yeah. Does that make sense? It's true.
24:38 Yeah. If their quality of life is excellent, and all of a sudden, they're gone. And then they wake up, and they're gone. That feels a lot. Which can happen. It happens all the time. It's hard to process. But when you're dealing with an illness, or whatever age catching up to you, and you just can't do anything, you process it a little bit more because you know they're not suffering. It's weird. With my parents, it was the opposite scenarios. Between the two of them, my dad was, you know, the doctors gave him about, they said, you know, like a year and a half, and he lived eight years. And then my mother was fine, and she had a heart attack, and she was gone.
25:19 Yeah, I remember when you told me about your mother, because at that point, we weren't really hanging out a lot. We were just kind of, you went through a bad time. It was a lot, and then there was a stretch for a while where there were so many people. I remember I was a pallbearer like five times inside of three months. It was when Lou's dad passed. He was one of those five. I had my cousin, a parent of a friend of mine, and then, you know, other family members. And yeah, it's rough. Right now, we're going through the stage of, just in my family, burying my mom and dad in the last year and a half.
26:05 But now we're going into, which is such a better option, now it's going into weddings. You know, when the kids are all lining up. They're all lining up to get married, because they're all in that same age group. Yeah. That's wonderful. So that's where we're so much better. Well, you're in church for that reason. Yeah, way better. Way better. Way better. But yeah, so August was, August? That was in August. August, yeah, yeah. Yeah. August was, and I was out of town. Both my parents, same thing. I was in Albany, strangely, for my mom and my dad. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't know how it happened. I was on my way with my mother, and I had just gotten there, and then I was in a hotel overnight when my father passed.
26:45 Yeah, I was in Rochester doing a show, and I was coming home, luckily. Yeah. I don't know how it happened, and my father, even though he was not healthy, I don't think when I went on vacation with my family, that's where I was, I did not think he was going to pass that weekend. I mean, he wasn't at that point. Right. Because the last time I saw him, we were walking around, and he had dementia, so he was never in a point of having conversations, but he was having his own conversations. It's a little different when you're not home. It's tough. Yeah. That was August. Yeah, that can be rough.
27:26 So August, then it was into Labor Day, kind of almost Labor Day weekend. Yeah, towards the end. Yeah. So that was, I mean, Labor Day, we had visitors, and again, we were out on the boat. Baby Josie has a cousin, Isla, and her mom, Kate. They are in the Buffalo area. They came to visit for their- Skilled bills. Yeah, skilled bills. They came to visit, and spent like a Saturday into Sunday with us. Took them out, and Isla wanted to get in the water, so we went out for the day on the boat, and anchored up at Three Mile Bay, and got her in the water and swimming, and baby got in a little bit, but the water was a little cold.
28:09 How was that area? I know when we used to go without the babies and stuff, that was crowded and rock and roll. How was that? We used to go there, and it was 10 or 15 years ago. Rock and roll. And it was a little bit too crazy for us then. It was like a club on water. Oh, now, people show up with those foam machines, and there's foam all over. Oh, like a resort? Like a club. Club. Like a nightclub. There are DJs that are sponsoring parties. So yeah, it's a little bit crazy. So there's basically, on the lake that we have our boat on, there's Three Mile Bay, and then there's Sylvan Beach and Verona Beach.
28:53 Sylvan Beach, Verona Beach, much more family oriented. Three Mile Bay, the bay that is closer to where we are, it gets a little, you know, it just gets busy, and people are playing music loud, and lots of drinking, and what really used to kill me is you'd be walking around in the sand, and you'd step on a bottle. People are crazy. So when we did that, like, there's all the boats, and then I go way on the other side of the bay, and I tie up, and we're all by ourselves. Smart. And then, yeah. And honestly, we didn't stay there the whole day. Then we got done with that, and then we went on the river, went up to Block 23, and tied up there, and walked around.
29:34 But it was a very nice day. So we had a nice day, came back here, and watched some duck tales, I think. That was Isla's choice, and then they went to Mass with us, and then they headed back to, on Sunday, they headed back to Buffalo. But it was nice. It's nice to see her. Isla's older, but very good with the baby, and it's nice to see those interactions. And Kate, Isla is where most of all these wonderful hand-me-downs are. Almost every time I say, what a cute outfit, it's a hand-me-down. It was Isla's. That's why you're not up to 15,000. No, yeah. Or 11,000. I can't tell.
30:15 She will bring, every time she comes to visit, she brings us a tote of all the stuff. That's how we used to grow up, too. I remember having circulating the clothes with my cousins. I mean, not my, obviously, female cousins, but when my cousin had the male, the boy, then my other cousin had the cousin Eddie and Paul. All the clothes were like, oh, because they would, I mean, they stayed pretty, we grew out of them so fast. You grew out of them so fast, and if you take good care of them, and she must take them back, because there's hardly ever anything with a stain or anything. That was the problem. The problem for me was, I would get hand-me-downs, but my cousins were all so much older, they would be obviously out of- The fashion. Out of, yeah.
30:55 Like, we're clearly like- You were in corduroy suits. I remember. So I'm like, I don't know. In school. Ten years old. I'm ten years old, or nine years old. So that would be 1978, and I had a hand-me-down from one of my cousins, and it was like a suede with tassels, jacket- I had one of those. Like Daniel Boone. I had one of those. Really? But mine was in the glam 80s, and I thought it was like Bon Jovi. Yeah, and that's when it came back into fashion. Yes, yes, yes. When I was wearing it, it was like, that's from the 60s. You were wearing a 78. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're Daniel Boone with that little hat. Yes, I did. All I needed was a coonskin hat. Well, the funny thing is, in my family, my cousin, Taylor, my whole family seems to have some Taylor's.
31:39 So we used to go to school with like suits, suit pants. Best dressed kids. So that was fun. That's funny. But no, so it was, we had a very nice visit, and then we ended up going to, it was an action-packed weekend. Boat on Saturday with Kate and Isla, and then when they, after mass, they went home, and we ended up going to the fair. Oh, you did? I did. Did you go to the fair? I did not. Missed the whole thing. We wanted to bring the baby. The baby loves- She said, I need to go to the fair. We took her last year when she was only a few months old, and she loved seeing the cows and the other animals. Of course, yeah. But I was, honestly, it's really changed a lot. There's hardly any, like, there used to be all these, you know, New York is a lot of agriculture.
32:23 Sure was. There used to be like the building with all the cows and the building with all the pigs. They're gone. Really? There was like one building with some goats, and no, there wasn't any sheep. There wasn't any poultry building. There wasn't any. It was just- The chickens? No. The dyed chickens weren't there? No. The little chicks that are blue and red? No. None of that. My kids, we used to love going there. Yeah. Even like the horticulture building. There's no plants. It's all like, it's like the whole fair now is a swap meet. It's all like just people selling stuff. Did you go see the horse? They always have the horses, like the shows. There were- There were draft horses. They were doing like wagon shows when we were there.
33:04 We saw them kind of getting ready a little bit, but a little bit, but we walked around and we had fun. Did they get rid of the petting zoo? Where they had like the camels and the- Nope. None of that. And feed the- It's very limited. I used to go there to see the giraffe. You feed the giraffe? No giraffes. Wow. No, very- So now it's become a swap meet. It's become, yeah. It's much more like just like shopping and food. It changed when they changed the rotation of how everything was. I think the midway was different. I mean, they changed all that. Well, they built that new expo center and they moved the concerts from the track to the new amphitheater.
33:45 I had not gone. But yeah, it wasn't great. I mean, we had fun, but it's not like it was. And she got to see some goats and little- Did she have a favorite food? Fair food? You know, I'm trying to remember. What did we have? Oh, again, back to food. I know. We've got- There was- Have you ever gone to Moon Jeds? Yes. On West- Yes. So they had a booth- Oh. At the fair. But they had- I saw this thing on the menu. It was a Dubai chocolate pistachio cheesecake. Oh my God. One slice, $15. Really? I thought that was the fair price. But I thought, let's get it. Not a fair price, but the fair.
34:26 Meaning it can't possibly be $15 all the time. Right. But $15, it was fantastic. Okay. It was absolutely delicious. The baby loved it. She loves pistachio, loves chocolate. But it was the fair. But when you have kids, because obviously now my kids go by themselves because they're adults, but when you have kids your age and a little older, the fun part about the fair was all the animals and all the buildings. So you take that away, yeah, you're really left with just food and rides. And it's not like she's ready. She's not ready for the midway. Exactly. So it's like, yeah, there really wasn't a whole lot. So not great.
35:07 And the free concerts sometimes. Yes. And then free- Although whoever was playing, I had no idea who it was that was playing the Chevy Chords or whatever it's called. Probably rap. Whatever it's called now. Rap or country. Yeah. But we did that. And then we rounded out the long weekend with a cookout at Auntie Paula and Uncle Avi's house. Speaking about that, I'm going to shout out to Paula. I ran into her at my son's place of employment when he's back from college at a diner. Shout out to Garden View Diner. She paid for our lunch. Oh, that's very nice. And I was like, yeah. Very nice. Shout out, Paula.
35:47 You rock. She's made some significant inroads going to mass with us every week. Wow. She is very popular with- Since the baby, right? Oh, yeah. Something changed. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's been taking a grandmother role or something. She's very popular. And because baby Josie loves jewelry so much, now she always makes a point to wear something different. And my sister has the kind of jewelry collection that she can do that for probably a couple of years. That's fine. She's doing well with baby Josie. So this is a little bit of insight. Maybe I should be wearing some jewelry here. That might help. That might help. It might help. Not a great reception. I tried to warm her up before you came.
36:28 I'm like, guess who's- I don't even know what happened. Guess who's coming. Because the last time we were here, no crying. Yeah. I'm not sure. I don't know what it is. Working on 19 months. Yeah. We just got to get you over here more. I'm the godfather, right? I know. Because now she's kind of gotten used to Avi. Avi's very popular now. Really? Yep. Avi, Avi. Because he speaks seven languages and she probably thinks it's funny. He does not do that with her so much. He does try a little Italian once in a while. Just with us. But yeah. So yeah. Honestly, we went to see some friends last weekend or the weekend before. And Jason, he's kind of a taller, more slate, but a taller guy.
37:11 And she warmed up to him pretty quick too. Just me. But again, he was very focused on, like we were talking. He and I were talking. Yeah. And that, I think, intrigues her. Okay. But with you, you didn't even have a chance to talk to her. I was playing with the dogs. Yeah. I think that's also part of the problem. I wasn't yelling when I came in. You show up and it's pandemonium because of the dogs. Yeah. And she's like, what's going on? It might be something. It could be. The funny thing is, because I don't even think I've heard her really speak. Oh, it's quiet. Because she's sleeping or she's doing something or crying. Oh, yeah. But you look, I'm wearing this shirt. She goes, look, honey, you want to see the buffalo? She goes, no. No.
37:52 I want nothing to do with this band. She is, yeah. The talking, since summer, it has become- That's awesome. It has become crazy. Well, we were talking about before how things change. You have this relationship with a baby that doesn't speak, right, at first. And you think, okay, this is how it's going to be. And then now you're at the place where you're going, oh, wow, there's words. There's little words coming out. And then you go to a place where it's like, oh, we're having conversations. Yes. And that's going to happen. It already is. Right. And that's the thing. It's kind of been, it's been funny because, you know, the developmental stuff, we're always, you know, Kelly's always all over it and trying to figure out, are we on time?
38:37 Like, are we doing everything good? But she's always way ahead. She has always been ahead for the language and kind of cognitive stuff and always right at the end for the gross motor skills stuff. So back now, so we're talking about in August. So she would have been, she was 18 months on September 5th. 18 months is the cutoff for when they are, where if they're not walking by then, it's a problem. Right. So now, of course, from my perspective, it wasn't like she wasn't walking.
39:21 She was walking, but she would not walk without holding our hand. So it was kind of funny, right? It's like you take your finger away and she would just plop. Like, no, no, I have to have that. Right. So, and it's funny because my sister Lucille in Texas is like, you've just got to like, you've got to get her to do it. And I'm like, and I'm not, I wasn't worried about it. I'm not, I wasn't that worried about it. I know it's not a problem where she can't. It's just a thing in her head and she's going to get over it. You know what would have helped that? Apple juice. That's true. Tell your wife that. And she wasn't, and Kelly wasn't that concerned either until it was coming up on, we're going to have to tell the people, Trisha, and she's still not doing it.
40:05 Now it's going to be a conversation. So Kelly started to take it a little bit more seriously. And every night after dinner, we would kind of spend some time together without the dogs in the room in our bedroom. And there's a dog bed in the bedroom. And that kind of became her launching pad where she would sit there. And, and then it was right around, it was the day before, I think my birthday. Yeah. And I have a video and I will, I will probably insert it here. You'll see it right now. Yes. So, and I think it happened the night before, but then I have a video of the day before my birthday on September 10th.
40:48 She's sitting on the dog bed and I, and I tape it. I'm like, come, come to me. And she walks to me. And that's like, it's just a wonderful, like that, that was so much fun. So that was a wonderful first to see her. And now she's just all over the place all the time. And it's amazing how quickly she can get, you know, across from one corner of the house to the other, because now it's not like. Does she look like a drunk person? A little bit. Because we used to say when our kids were drunk. Especially when she's got two things. She's always got stuff on her hands. Yes. And so, and then there's also like Watson can knock me over if he goes flying by. So when he goes, it's like when he goes by, if he's too close.
41:31 It's going to be like your boat with the waves. So we got to be like, really? So that's why all of a sudden, and we talked about it in other episodes long time ago, you know, we've got this big blue stone hearth in front of our fireplace. Our coffee table is like raw metal edges. So we've got this stuff. They make it, it's like got teddy bears on it. And it's like adhesive on one side. So we have just like put padding on every hard edge. You ever see the ones that look like pool noodles? Yes. But they're cut for like piping. Yes. And you can just, and they're tape and you can just go. That probably would have been vastly less expensive. This stuff was ridiculous, but it was up right now.
42:14 Oh yeah. But yeah. So, so we had to put that stuff all over. But yes, it was like the dog bed was her launch pad. And now she's just all over the place running around. So there was that first. We've covered a lot of ground and we've got even more to tell you about baby Josie's adventures, but we're going to close for right now. So don't forget to subscribe to us on YouTube and follow us on Facebook, Tik TOK, and Instagram. Thanks for sticking with us and we'll see you real soon. Well folks, that's another episode of the gray hair and daycare podcast in the books.
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