Nov. 10, 2026

Baby's First Swear Word & Mensa Dad Life! Older Dads Parenting Comedy: S02E05 Part 2

Baby's First Swear Word & Mensa Dad Life! Older Dads Parenting Comedy: S02E05 Part 2
Gray Hair & Daycare | Parenting Humor & Tips for Older Dads
Baby's First Swear Word & Mensa Dad Life! Older Dads Parenting Comedy: S02E05 Part 2

Welcome back to the premier parenting podcast for dads where older dads tackle toddler swear words and genius milestones! In this episode of raw parenting comedy, we breakdown the ultimate dad life realities for every Gen X dad.

Navigating fatherhood late in life brings endless humor in life and unforgettable funny parenting moments. Frank shares the hilarious story of baby Josie dropping her first swear word—and for once, the blame falls entirely on mama! We deliver practical fatherhood tips, new dad advice, and essential parent advice on handling the ketchup versus mustard hot dog controversy and the "agree and move on" marital strategy.

From Frank joining Mensa to evaluate his toddler's 99th-percentile cognitive milestones to rewriting Baby Shark into "Daddy Poop," this episode is packed with peak dad humor. We also offer thoughtful baby advice and grounded fatherhood advice on toddler socialization before age three. Being a dad while raising kids is full of chaos, but nothing beats hearing that first precious "Love you". Tune in for authentic parenting talk!

Chapter Markers

  • 0:00 – Mama's Slip-Up: The Toddler's First Swear Word

  • 1:45 – Silver Fox Mailbox: Trina Weighs In on Hot Dog Ketchup

  • 4:50 – Hot Steaks vs. Cold Plates: The Domestic Food Temperature War

  • 6:30 – Empty Calories: Juice Bans vs. Rocky Road Ice Cream

  • 10:45 – Italian Sausage Sandwiches with Mustard & Provolone

  • 13:50 – Turning Stone Dinner: Napkin Ring Bracelets at Salt

  • 15:30 – Anniversary Date Night at Daniella's Steakhouse

  • 18:15 – 19-Month Alphabet Prodigy: Frank Joins Mensa

  • 24:30 – Rewriting Baby Shark: The "Daddy Poop" Anthem

  • 27:15 – September 21st, 8:49 PM: The First "Love You"

  • 31:00 – Tim's Pumpkin Patch: Apple Cannons, Emus & Cider Arnold Palmers

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0:00 The other first which I am particularly proud of but I cannot be blamed for she's smoking No, no, but it's on the path to She had her first swear word Yes, I know it's horrible. It's so damn cute now for anybody I'm not sure if they do but for anyone on Kelly's side of the family or any of her relatives It is at that moment where they're all going. Yeah, he must have heard this from the heathen Yes from the the the crazy Italian. Yeah No, no No, it was mama and it was so perfectly attributable to mama because Mama dropped something as we were getting ready for church and said shit Shit oh my god, and I it was twice it happened twice in two days and I was like and you'll see the video right now.

1:02 I wish I had that video because I would play it on a loop This is the gray hair and daycare podcast with a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ right in that same range your hosts Frank Syrio and Carlo Russo Welcome back to season 2 episode 5 part 2 We have a few more stories that we didn't have time to get to last week So we're back to finish up the job and get you all caught up Thanks for sticking with us.

1:48 And here is the rest of episode 5 Coming back to another perennial favorite for our viewers and listeners the silver Fox mailbox So This is even a text message, okay, it's one that I would like to talk about and it was there were a lot of we did get a lot of messages on on our, you know online channels of Congratulations and wishing wishing us. Good luck with the book and all that stuff, which I appreciate very very much But this text message I got was from Trina And it was a reaction to a couple episodes ago when we talked about ketchup This is not the only one but I think hers her reaction was kind of summed up what everybody else felt Which is that I am right and the ketchup does not belong on hot dogs.

2:51 Okay, I felt that was very good But so she she she dove right into the ketchup versus mustard debate Well, basically just she didn't know how to feel about Kelly anymore Knowing that she did this she's a ketchup that she's a catcher. I think if she's Confused about Kelly. I think one of my children Does catch up? I do. I'm not I think she talked about that Holly really? Yeah, Nicholas does nothing on it. No, he's hot dog. Rob. Just rob. Just plain Yeah, just plain it's funny now So when I shared that very happily with with Kelly her reaction She was not offended at all and and really she takes it back to and it's true The people from Buffalo like Salem's hot dogs, right?

3:46 Their difference so maybe that's that's trial she's trying to explain why the ketchup goes with the hot so she's saying That particular brown particular hot dog enhanced by ketchup is enhanced by ketchup. I wear our Hoffman our Hoffman will never know No, I catch up. Now. What do you like on that? I On I like Coney's and I always I always put brown mustard and sweet relish not the dill relish sweet relish Is the brown mustard the spicy one? Yeah, okay mustard like Golden's. Yep Yeah, that's the way I like it once in a great while if I have it a little diced onion, okay That's like now you're talking.

4:28 Yeah, I for some reason I am NOT a relish person. No, I love onions. Yeah Mustard now if you have a good chili, you know, I might make a chili dog Yeah, I can do that with some shredded cheese cheddar on the top. Yeah now we're not but that's a whole different pocket So I think it felt like reinforcement for me because I do feel like I don't know if you feel I'll be interested to hear what you think especially because this comment came from Trina, right? I think there's a fair amount of I Don't feel like I do it, but I probably do but I feel like my lovely wife wants the baby to like what she likes and dislike what she dislikes well, and I And and there's a part of it that like when I see it not go that way when I see her favor this stuff I like it's a win.

5:20 I feel better Yes, right and when I see her dude and because there have already been some significant wins on her side like And I don't know if we've ever I think we've talked about this how Kelly doesn't like food to be hot Really, that's spicy. You mean heat hot. It's amazing The fact that her mother was always so scattered and out of control, okay, there was never hot food served to them, right? So they're used to everything Yeah, it's always ice-cold, right? And so I think that's what it's from But yeah, no, I will make like a I cook, you know Maybe move around half and it's not more than half the time if I make a steak I will and for like and that's like the pinnacle for me of the steak has to be hot It has to be it's I'm so on your Wavelength right now, right now it like that's a that's of all the stuff if you're having a pork chop a steak Something like that you got it's got to be hot.

6:17 So I time it down I got the sides and it literally it's the 30 seconds resting a little butter on it and it's on the table and I start Eating right. It's got it's got to be my wife Also does not like steaming hot food, right? I like lava, right? I So hot like my wife always says how do you even taste that? I don't know my brain It needs to be hot So I think it's fresh or right I don't know what it is a steak when people say now take the steak out and let it rest I want to die. I want to I want to run through the TV and go are you nuts right a little bit now? To a certain extent you do a little but I never do it for as long.

7:01 I'm always counting I'm like, you know, come on. I never do it for as long as they say So, you know, so I but I get but yeah, I think and I'm not like they're people I remember my uncle was one always wanted his food so hot. He would microwave his plate. Oh, I'm yes So to keep everything super hot. Well, I Have warm place. Oh, yeah, I mean the high-end It works. I'm not like that, but I don't want it to be cold or even lukewarm. I don't like I am I am on your but I'm like, I'll make a steak. She I will eat my whole steak before she touches her Yeah, no, I'm she will eat it and say it's good It's fine But she doesn't care about how and now because most of the time Kelly is the one feeding the baby.

7:50 The baby is like that I will like I will try to give her my oatmeal. My meal is not screaming hot and she'll be like Like I have to make sure it's cool down, but she's already got that win But if it was up to me on the win-lose, you know the what your question was my kids would just probably be eating like Sandwiches and steaks so I'm glad that my wife Introduced the vegetables stuff that I probably most men probably wouldn't Introduce even though I love I love vegetables. I don't hate them But she made sure that that was part of the meal Yeah, and to take that win and I'm glad she took that win because my kids love vegetables more Nick I think then Natali Yeah But I probably wouldn't have done that that honestly the funny thing this has come up and it's kind of it's been a little bit of a contentious issue with us because from the beginning Every kid I ever saw juice.

8:50 They're always having juice apple juice. Yeah, so sure in the beginning There was no juice Okay, and and I did from what I read the little reading that I did It was not recommended until they were like a year or whatever. You weren't supposed to give them juice Okay, but then once it happened, I'm like let's you know, let's oh, yeah, we can do that But then I know that's what what Kelly will do and she'll do this with any number of things But certainly with anything with the baby where we might disagree she will just agree and never do it Right. She'll be like, oh, yeah, we should do that Yeah, and if I don't and then like a month later, I'll be like, hey, didn't we say we figured you out? Yeah agree with you and move on agree and move on agree and move on agree This old man will forget.

9:36 Yeah, he's not gonna know so it came eventually I was like Why don't we give because especially when we got to the point where you know when when she started when her growth curve started to Kept to kind of peak a little bit on the weight gain and they started telling us like do this do that I'm like look she drinks water all the time like give her juice free calories It's not bad. Like we don't know. I don't want to give her high-c like no get her real apple juice something There's no sugar add right? Oh, yeah. No, but by then she's so used to Bland water water. She doesn't want like if you put water the only just great I guess in the long run only juice she likes and it's because I ended up giving it to her because I had it I drink the I drink v8.

10:20 I like tomato juice. She'll drink v8 Love you. She loves she likes that but otherwise she won't and the other day We were talking about it because we're trying like even after the last visit I think the dot the pediatrician is starting to understand if Kelly and all of her siblings Were 90th percentile for height and 10th percentile for weight It's running it's not surprising that she's doing what she's doing that she's healthy, but we've said that yeah She's but she won't look at the mom So she but we have After that last one before we got the all-clear. We're like I'm like give her ice cream Like she likes she likes chocolate So we're giving her right, you know, so she's giving her ice cream and I brought up the juice again, I'm like can't why don't we And she and again now it's been so many times.

11:10 She can't just do though. Yeah, so now she kind of is like well It's really not good. Oh Now she's telling you them and not so now then then the reason comes out that somewhere She read something that said it's not good and it's empty calories And I'm like, how about the rocky road in front of like we're giving her Ice cream and juice is not good for her So it is interesting. Like I said, you can find healthier choices of juice. Yeah, it doesn't have to be horrible stuff It can be all now now apple juice. This is when you wanted the empty kill. This is when you need it This is one now, you know, like it's not good for us When you add it up if she had a glass like she'd be three pounds heavier if we have been giving her juice all this time So then I do think that's kind of funny though, but yeah, that was a fun conversation.

12:02 I'm like so ice creams, okay But juice, I mean, I agree. I love it, too But yeah, I thought I thought that was I love agreeing him moving on. Yes, honey. Of course, we will That is not my instinct right now so I used to do like she would say something like we really should go on vacation with my cousin in Oman and And I'd be like, are you? We're not doing that right and now I'm just like, yeah, that would be great because I know if I'm if I don't book the flights Right, it's not gonna happen. But those all those conversations did come from The hot dog From the reaction of and I do think I think most people are mustard our mustard people.

12:49 Have you done ketchup? but you You do coonies. Yes Doesn't matter if it's or I prefer Coney's over the over the Reds, but if I have Reds, it's the same thing Although I'm ready. I've never put ketchup on it. Nope in my head It's like it's a fun like it's like too sweet mustard on hot dogs ketchup on burgers Just like in my head as a kid cats are girls and dogs are boys My mother goes, how is she doing? It's a it's a male. It's a male and it's What do you think about I'm gonna blow everybody's mind now, okay, I don't know if I've told you this before Italian sausage sandwiches onions peppers.

13:38 Yes. I put mustard on it and it changes the whole damn sandwich I have done that so good and it is good and I don't usually I Don't really often do the peppers and onions me either. I will do a slice of cheese Sometimes a slice of provolone cheese. What do you mean? Like on this on the sausage sandwich, okay, but a slice of provolone in there. Okay with the sausage. It's very good Especially if it's nice and hot and it melts. No, that's good. But I told Trina and we were at one of the festivals where they she left you And I Said just put it on there. You're gonna love it. Yeah, and From now on that's what how we eat.

14:20 It's weird. That's good. What kind of rolls though? What do you mean Wait, I mean like that like for hot dogs. It's got to be the New England rolls. I like the New England rolls I don't like the other ones like the ballpark ones. Really? Not really. I like the front I like the New England roll the New England in theory I like it, but it seems like it doesn't go down to D. It looks like the cuts. I always have to there's a balancing point You have to you have to widen it Yes, but not say you don't want it to fall apart because then all the all the condiments go out the bottom I I battled I like a challenge But what kind of role do usually Would you put on that sausage I mean usually like a hoagie roll So once again, that's just the parenting podcast is all about food but it is related what happens with two Italians Let us know what you feel put your mustard and ketchup on a hot dog or you don't And do you do one day?

15:23 I'm gonna just yes your spouse to death and do whatever you want. Anyway Yeah, just move on what we're gonna do one day if we remember we should have done this in this summer But we saw some we should not grill up some hot dogs. Mm-hmm and put some ketchup and no we should Hey, I'm not gonna make me dress up in like baby stuff or take baths in this Just for sign I could try it. Yes for sign. I'll probably end up liking it and then I'll feel bad That's horrible, right? Then we have to lie. We were just taught with the with with the baby though with me Josie Just before you got here and she was having lunch and We went and we had some leftover meatloaf. Uh-huh. We went to Tully's for dinner and had their meatloaf.

16:04 It's good and Ashley was giving her the leftover meatloaf and she's like, yeah, she was eating it and without the ketchup I think sometimes she likes ketchup so much Just like what happened with the hot dog. You put ketchup on the hot dog She'll like lick the ketchup ketchup off and spit out the hot dog. Give her the hot dog and she'll eat it So it was the same it's the same thing with that so Ketchup, I think for them for the baby is like its own food group. Do you remember when we went to? Montreal or yeah, okay. Remember we ate I eat hamburgers the whole yeah I'm there and after another not one. Yeah, I mean one was like classy every meal to the place called burger or hamburger or whatever and They the class or you go to the hamburger places.

16:49 Mm-hmm. The less ketchup you'll find there you get that Don't yell at you. Yeah. Yeah, you don't put this on our meat No, and that's a good way to find out if something's good when you don't doctor it up Yeah, if it doesn't if it doesn't need like a steak, right? Like yeah. Yeah, give me the steak. Let it taste good You don't have to go crazy on. Oh, here's some mushroom soup on top of it, right? But I am a ketchup fan though. It shouldn't yeah, I put it on the right stuff. Just not have you done Yeah, okay, I lied it wasn't the last food thing have you done and I got introduces in Europe French fries with mayo. Yes It's a winner.

17:29 Yeah, it's a winner mayonnaise. Come on. I know I'm pretty much anything sadly Okay, so well that was our silver Fox mailbox, please send us your questions thoughts and what you know How you how you disagree with your spouse on whatever food or other things parenting? Their desires and just advance your own agenda blindly There we go, don't miss any of the fun be sure to subscribe on YouTube Give us a like follow us on Facebook Instagram and tick-tock or maybe give us a review wherever you listen The other first which I am particularly proud of but I cannot be blamed for she's smoking No, no, but it's on the path to She had her first swear word Yes, I know it's horrible.

18:32 It's so damn cute now for anybody I'm not sure if they do but for anyone on Kelly's side of the family or any of her relatives It is at that moment where they're all going. Yeah, he must have heard this from the heathen Yes from the the the crazy Italian. Yeah No, no No, it was mama and it was so perfectly attributable to mama because Mama dropped something as we were getting ready for church and said shit Shit oh my god And I It was twice it happened twice in two days and I was like and you'll see the video right now I wish I wish I had that video because I would play it on a loop It would be so all the time and I just found it.

19:25 So funny because I do I I curse I curse way more than then Kelly does and I try very very hard not to write to correct around the baby, but But even even with my trying very hard, I would still say I still do Curse more in front of her, but it just was so perfect that it ended up being Kelly Not not me. So how quickly did she forget it or she is a part of her vocabulary? No, it has not you know, yeah, it is not that's good because now because now it could be. Oh, yeah turning because we both we both just did not and I needed even because I laughed and Then I had to Yes, I've been so but no now she's just constantly like she's picking up words all the time right so there's always something new Impress us with Hearing that I'm sorry Coming out of a baby is hilarious clear as a bell.

20:33 It was Sorry And then so but then so then we're coming into it was the walking The first for first steps first swear word and then it's my birthday And we ended up go to birthday dinner. We went to the new restaurant at Turning Stone salt It was excellent. Very nice. The thing that I thought was the cutest with a view us. It's a very fancy restaurant You have these very nice napkins with these beautiful Napkin rings, okay, and the baby because as I said, she loves jewelry immediately.

21:13 She's like She put it on she It's adorable. She's just yelling shit There was none of that shit But no, it was a really nice great place food was excellent a little pricey Well, of course, you have to casino. Yeah But but it was it was a great meal we had a time it was very nice Paul and Avi joined us nice. It was a great night I got a cute picture of her standing in the booth next to me with a with a little giant wine rack behind But yeah, we had a great great time. And then I think on that weekend we went to Abbott Farms My son just went there with a with his lovely female friend.

21:58 Okay, I'm picking apples and a bunch of apples Place we wandered around there got to see some goats. She loves she loves the animals So we we did that typical fall, you know that kind of stuff Oh, yeah up in this area and then right after that. So it's right in a row. It's my birthday your birthday and then Kelly and my anniversary. Mm-hmm. So that night we had our first date night Since we were on our look the cruise we went on in November and we went to Daniela's Which very different very different vibe From salt to see no, but excellent.

22:38 I mean they really it's good. Yeah, and We had a nice day. Yeah, I did I had I don't know what exactly what cut I got probably a ribeye I attend we're steak guys. Yeah, and they're good. What I like there too is the owner calls Every time Charlie Roman he will call and ask how it was and call you personally. Yeah, I think he calls everybody Yeah I've had I've been there if you know that name Charlie Roman in Syracuse. Yes, two out of three times. I've been there He has called me on my cell phone. That's fantastic. It is it's not I've never heard of that. Yeah, it's really nice Wow Just to make sure everything was make sure everything was good.

23:20 I'm sure it's not just for me I think he's like going through and say good for him. Yeah Yeah, it was very nice. So yeah, so we had a very nice dinner and it was nice We got to actually talk about things and feel like feel like people Yeah Well, I have to admit like, you know, we're talking about we're making plans We're gonna be going on another cruise with Kelly's cousin and her husband and their little girl and we're like planning out the activities and Normally, we will get a massage or and there's always like special dining. That's adults only and I was and I I told Kelly and I'm like, I don't want to do it. I'm like, we're on vacation You just want to be with your family together.

24:02 I want to I want the baby to be with us It's the best. Yeah, that's the best part of my kids are 25 and Going on 20 and we went on the cruise last year and it was so cool being all in one room Everybody's large now, but it was still cool right by my 20 year old who's like 6 to Coming in the you know at night With a pizza in his hand and we're all sitting there watching. I love it. I still I love that stuff. Yeah, I feel like Even though we're always like we both work at home. We're with the baby all the time But when you're on vacation, it's different. You don't have anything I don't know from everything else exactly and you can just be together and have fun But it was it was nice and and I think we did say we got at least you guys do that You should do it at least once a month.

24:52 Yeah, we should we should do that kind of like touch base Yeah, so we will likely do that going forward But we had a nice date night for our anniversary next year is the big one next year. We will be married 10 years For us that's a big one for you guys. You'll be how mine's gonna be 29 years, but Wow 29 so you'll be I've been there. Yeah It'll be 29 I'm on my 29th going on to my 29th I've known my wife longer like I met her 21 and I'm 50. Yeah, so you have known her longer than I Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's awesome. And we've always been almost been married as long as I've been old. Yeah, so that's awesome But yeah, so we're trying to figure out what we might do special for our 10th But a lot of what has been going on has been I think I was telling you about it earlier She does this stuff.

25:42 The baby clearly is very smart We're talking about is this about the reading thing when I said, yeah talking about reading books Yeah, so did we have I don't think we talked about the alphabet board. No, so she has an alphabet board This is where the beginning for me of like, okay, this isn't this is something this is something special Yeah, so she has an alphabet board It's just a wooden board with wooden letters in the shapes and they're all different and each one has an associated Object or animal right? So a is an apple and V is a violin and so so she's So she's Frightened of it throws in the corner So she's she's going I'm watching her play with it and she's just like picking them up and BAM right there there there and everyone So now she'll say the name so I'm like, huh, so I take them all and I put them in a bag and I take start taking them out one at a time and She got 19 out of 26 letters Right the letter either the letter or the either the letter or the animal or both and Then some she just didn't answer but every one of them ended up in the train It's on the board and she knew what it was and had that association I thought so that's when I started asking like okay at what point should a kid know be at this point that much of their alphabet and And That's like a 30-month like closer to three.

27:04 Wow, you know, but again, but it's like but some of it could be It's the association right? Like she doesn't get that. It's a letter. She just knows that thing is the violin symbol So gotcha, but she's making associations, right? Yes, but then just today Kelly comes in she's like yeah it's not just associations because she was she pointed at her keyboard and said what's that like her computer keyboard and She got she names of the letters. Oh, she's 19 months old and she can name almost the whole out. Oh, yeah like there's We gotta get our deck of cards. Give it to the casino I'm telling you.

27:45 I have a lot of the stuff that she's doing like she will sing whole songs correctly That's something that's like a three she's doing stuff that four-year-olds good luck with her. She's gonna be outsmarting you Sons of guys. I literally weeks ago. I said I said to Kelly. I'm like we this is not like we're gonna really have to be on top and and I think I think Kelly took like Kelly took it a little bit like Rudely like like what do you mean like right? Like yeah, we're gonna be able and I'm like this is if she is as advanced as it appears that she is You can't just you got to stay ahead of that or in my honestly now.

28:34 My biggest fear is And I don't know how true it is or not, but I think if you don't maximize that it goes away, right? Well, yeah, you use it or lose it, right? Like if you don't take advantage of that and give her every bit of challenge not just to continue to stretch and challenge her That superpower will go away So if we do it, right, yeah, so that's the challenge is to really to get involved But yeah now I'm like, I'm very I'm very happy a while back. I ended up you know because I've we started for a while to think about maybe homeschooling stuff and There's order, you know, you know what Mensa is.

29:15 Yeah. Oh, yeah, so I I ended up like 1% I mean I put in my transcript and I got accepted. It's right. So so yeah So I've always known like when you're in high school, they give you your IQ. So I knew what my IQ was and And I thought it would qualify so I send it in I did and they have all these resources Which is why I did it like now it's like I don't need somebody to tell me I'm smart But they have all these resources for gifted children and classes and stuff So now I'm like pouring through that stuff and they have actually there's an upcoming class that they're what's your applicant? What do you have to do to is there like you have to be? To be a member of mental you have to have a IQ of over 140 40, right?

29:58 Yeah, and I think I just like 142. So they how are we friends? I think I'm 42 That's Mortal life than that there is that as my wife was dumb as me as my wife said well Carlo has emotional intelligence But but yeah, so there's there's actually an upcoming class that talks about how to Assess and evaluate at very young Yeah, but she does she does stuff She the way she says things the sentence like you know It's there she shouldn't be saying two and three and four words and she does she's all about it Did you did you say your father was pretty?

30:49 Smart, my father was very intelligent. I think he was like, I mean for what he I think he only made it through. I Think he quit school at like eighth grade. Oh, yeah For a person he loved to read he was creative right? He was a smart guy And my grandfather I think to wrote wrote quite a bit and He was I never met him, but I heard Hearing from other family members. I think he was a pretty bright guy, too And my mom slide my mom's side there no slouches either. I mean, there are a lot of Talented we have a lot of talented people in my family and obviously on your wife's side. Yeah, there's there's intelligence That the child It was what it was fun because of the kind of interesting relationship I have with with Kelly's mother Yes that she's talking to her on the phone and she brings up that I have become a member of Mensa and She kept coming back to it like so, how did that what do you mean?

31:53 I don't know. How did he begin like is he a member like a janitorial division like? Is he building Is this like a honorary degree like did he donate money like what that's hilarious Nope, I'm actually Really smart and I'm actually smarter than all you that's great But yeah, you get a certificate No, they sent me a little blue card But it is It's a lot of people in that Probably I don't know if there's a lot it's funny because like that puts you typically like you're in the like 99th Percentile.

32:33 Yeah, that's right. And I've been asking so I'll just ever like I'll be seeing stuff The baby is doing so I'll start asking Gemini. I'm like, okay. My daughter is 18 months old She just did this this this and this where would you estimate estimate her? As a percentile for her cognitive ability you should know 99.9 Percentile what she's doing at this age Yeah, so and I'm like, okay, she's ever in the basement alone for a long time Make sure you're watching what she's doing Inventing or making she that you when I think of the stuff that I did as a kid, right and I didn't have Like I didn't have the resources that this kid's gonna have and and the support and all that stuff I was just like I was just like you think about ten years from now the resources the stuff that I was doing was crazy so Yeah, it'll it'll be it'll be interesting.

33:34 Yeah, but but yeah, so it's it's been a lot of fun so we're gonna try to start to Also because she is so it does appear to be so far ahead with that stuff just start her earlier on some of Like the social stuff like getting her to story hours and starting to get her interacting with other kids earlier Put her in front of a piano. Well, she I bet she'll be playing Yeah, she put we she loves the piano. She loves music. She's cuz she was just dragging her xylophone around earlier. So Yeah, the music stuff. I know I can't I can't wait you were playing for you Yeah, it's a lot of education we it's really so Kelly let her drink some apple juice That is a question though So for me like a lot of the stuff that you read now because there was that whole time when when daycare Became a thing.

34:29 Yeah, all the experts were like it's good That's better for them because they're interacting with other kids and they're getting socialized and all that and now all the studies are that's Bullshit. All right that until they're three years old What they need is to develop secure attachments. They need one-on-one with an adult Okay, right and and that's what they benefit from most because until they're over three years old You can put them with another kid, but they're not playing with the kid. They call it parallel play. That's it They're both doing the same Thing in the same was that kid could disappear and they wouldn't know right? Yep, so you With your family your boys probably had cousins around all the time from when they were little from the minute they So this wasn't a question for so for us.

35:21 It's like, okay, when do we start because she's with us all the time? Yeah, so When do we start to try to seek out those opportunities? Because we don't have that It'll be tougher for you, I guess that's when that's when the daycare would probably be the next Socializing or mine was off family and from day one Which I don't know Yeah, it's it's harder Ours we didn't think about it because that's the way because you have that you have that built in right? Which is my day here with my mom, right, right So without even thought we knew in the family that she was gonna watch the kids and the same time She was watching my kids.

36:03 She was watching my brother's kids. So it was they was so they had the best They had their family daycare very much. We're very lucky with Carrie and Ashley having them here They're wonderful with with her. But yeah to get the interaction with other kids is gonna be a little bit more We're gonna have to find you're gonna have to find yeah, you're gonna have to seek it out But that's one of the other things that she does that is not average that I then turned into something fun for me Which is like she'll sing songs But she will rewrite the songs Okay, so there's a very famous Baby Shark song Right, so it's just it's just baby shark doo-doo-doo-doo-doo mama shark doo-doo-doo so she started to replace the first part and the second part so it would be Mommy cow Like she would replace Wow the person and whatever the thing wasn't start to do that so we're in the car one time and we're driving around and she's doing that and and and Kelly singing along with her and I sing and then every once in a while she would like she throws it to us like mommy Kelly has to do it again daddy and I have to do it So then I decided I would change it and I would do daddy poop-poop-poop She immediately loves it.

37:26 I heard it once daddy poop Second time she swore And Kelly's just like oh my god, I'm like, this is your future I'm like the rest of your life is gonna be me and her doing things that embarrass you As Trina will tell you there are songs That I sung to my kids that they think they're actual real songs to this day. They'll be like a day Did you do that Philadelphia? Whatever or this and they'll sing it like it's That's wonderful now I have a new goal Trust me. You will hear Trina. I'm one of the comments and she absolutely is she'd be like, oh god stop Please making up these songs.

38:09 The kids think it's real and they're like 25 years old Tom Never have you ever heard of? Daddy poop-poop. That's what's gonna. Yeah, that's it But you know, you know what I was thinking about them the interaction with the kids You know what I and again, this is something that I did because I fell into it of what I was doing at the time when we were getting a Nick ready for school He was so Used to my mom dad and the cousins. There was really other no like right Yeah, I was like there was no like daycare. There was no other thing that looked like a school basis kind of thing So I was thinking oh wow, he's gonna be in pre-k and kindergarten So what I did was at the time I was part of the YMCA And they had their own like bring your kid you work out a day care do their thing But it looked like a school So that was such a great thing that we did because the minute he went to pre-k He thought he was still at the YMCA.

39:07 He was all set Daddy's working out again So, um, and I kind of just fell into that I think about I was like, oh, yeah Not thinking that all this is gonna help him right when he has to go to a real school scenario Yeah, and I'm not walking on he's crying and so just no That's another thing that I love about like with Carrie. She's the other day. She's telling me she's I've been looking into She's already looking for like pre-k programs or gifted kids for her. She's wonderful So we had that stuff and then you know It's the end of the summer and already starting to feel like fall or heaven Bowie withdrawal because she hasn't seen any boobies lately but very one other very important first Hmm, and this was and I made a note of it because I texted people immediately in my phone Okay, September 21st at 849 p.m. I got the first Love you And I haven't gotten one since But I got one And I remember getting the text from you, oh, yeah, it's just like and every night I say good night sure, I said love you and Whatever she's off and I she's she was kind of She had a book.

40:27 She's standing in front of my rocker in the in the Bedroom and she's looking at the book. I give her a kiss on her head. Love you I turn around I get as far as the bed and I hear and She looks over it says love you That was the Probably the best thing I have ever Heard in my life. It was just amazing. Well, I'm not gonna I Always bring it to humor. Yeah, Kelly gets shit and you get love. I Had not thought of that, but sorry, yeah, I'm not shit twice but no and what and that was the first it was she just I say Love you and then and then immediately because it almost didn't register at first immediately Kelly says you got the first one Yeah, I did But feeling you had okay.

41:22 Yes, right. Well Explain a little bit that little feeling you get when you hear your child say that. How did you feel? Yeah, you're like as you asking me and me trying to formulate I'm trying I'm stopping myself from crying and right. I'm asking you this because I have something to say. Yeah I mean, it's just like there's no answer there. Yeah, there is and it's just that Immediately this was your heart. Yeah, you just like I was talking to people The other day about becoming a parent and literally I think the greatest kindness that nature does for people for human beings is that people who don't have children Don't understand what it's like to have children because if they did they'd be miserable They'd be seeking they'd be running for they would be running toward it, right?

42:12 But you're right a good thing. They don't feel it. Yes, because if you can't then it's not fair It really it really really it is inexplicable how it affects you and yeah Just that moment this, you know, this little girl saying that yeah, it's just Because I Had that moment obviously, right? Hopefully every parent has a moment if it's the first or the second person who hears it and you get that feeling and let me tell you I Hear it now for my 25 year olds and 20 year olds and it's still the best Birds, yeah best when you hear that coming out of their face.

42:55 Yeah. Love you dad. Yeah Yeah Again, it's not what was me and our parents were different our parents grew up different They had different they had different problems to worry about. Yeah, I'm here that you know I need my my family to be, you know healthy and there's a house and food and I get it but there's something about how everything just Can just be taken away with just that that knowledge of I love you. Yeah You know what that word when it means something it makes I'm sure I don't know if it's different for a mother than it is for a father in my head what is fascinating for me is that Her existence makes you want to work harder and makes you want to do more and all those things But then hearing that as hard as it is because it is hard to be a parent even with every possible advantage Then there's challenges and there's difficulties, but you hear that and you're like All of that all of the hard stuff disappears Behind you and you're like I would I will run through walls for this kid You know what?

44:09 I hear when I and I could be wrong But this is you know what I hear when your child says that to you. Hmm for me. I feel like they're saying thank you Yeah, I feel like they're saying like thanks for being my dad thanks for being you and how I feel about you and Thank you dad, thank you. Like I love you is thank you for being my father. Yeah, because I know Everybody doesn't have that. It's interesting because you know, I know in my head She know she probably doesn't get it the same way Natalia Even more meaningful, right you have an adult who is that's what I'm saying experiencing life knows he doesn't have to who knows who has seen his his girlfriend and his friends and their parents and Recognizes he has something special and that's again another life goal.

45:00 Thank you. Like oh, I don't think I'm Giving me he appreciates you Allowing me to to say it to you without feeling yeah, I'm feeling weird. Yep. No, absolutely It's a yeah, it's a wonderful thing. Yeah without a doubt. So yeah, that was it. So September 21st 849 p.m I got my I got my I love you and then Then what and then this weekend this past weekend now, we're caught all the way right back up. We're here auntie Gabe and uncle David from Buffalo came out. They took the train out. We picked him up. Nice. We went out to The diner we went to the daily diner.

45:42 We've been there the old Ponderosa the whole Ponderosa was very good a nice breakfast and we went to Tim's Pumpkin patch we've ever been there This is in Marietta. So out like Auburn way. It's about a 40-minute drive. Okay, fantastic It was awesome. They had a huge pumpkin patch Huge sunflower field made like a sunflower My wife's favorite very beautiful like a wildflower patch sunflower field huge corn maze Ice-cream a hayride. I think they did but we didn't have they had Different trailers set up throughout the place.

46:24 Okay, the one we went to had Arnold Palmer's but made with cider instead of Instead of the tea. Yes. How's that? It was good. Very good. And then they had like deconstructed Caramel apples. It was like diced up apples with caramel in it. Oh, it's fantastic And what they have like they had little little Animals goats little penny had they have they had like pea fowl. There are a couple peacocks turkeys Then all kinds of animals they had emus Emus So there it was it was far better And then a whole area of this area set up with like stuff like a tower of of Hay bales for the kids to climb on big sandbox Then they have this thing set up with air cannons where you shoot apples at an old school bus Sure, it was we're loving it, but it was a wonderful place.

47:21 We had a great a great time Took a bunch of cute pictures Yeah For Halloween, yes, exactly. We had a great time. It was a nice drive out And I really enjoyed it Tim pumpkin patch and they've been doing it for I think for like 20 years Yeah, really? It was it was great. We had a great time. Very very nice. It's fun. Yeah Yeah, it's a nice time of year. I mean I hate it because I know what's next. Yes Yeah, so I'm never I'm enjoying the moment but follows I like to follow, you know, I'm wearing shorts and I like when you can take out your hoodies and yeah, it's a whole different thing. But then the snow comes That's that I was just in the garage.

48:01 I was just staring at the stack of snow tires. I got a Gotta be ready. I gotta put the plow on the truck. Oh, but but no so that wasn't but that was a nice We had a nice weekend. It's not to see David and Gabe always really make the effort to come see on like On point they come they make a point of being really a great. Yeah, that's awesome That's nice. So we had a nice day. We did that get back here and then we went and over to Koto at the mall because we love it back to the pay list the week over Monday trains to eat Oh, really go every Monday. That's have sushi. Oh, I didn't know every Monday I'm going to place now Right a tap on Bear Road the corner of Bear Road and route 11 in that Plaza there were little Caesars And oh, yeah, there's a sushi place in there We've we haven't been there, but we've ordered from there and it's good sushi.

48:54 It's a really good Anyway, so I think that caught us all the way up So by next time we talk yes, we'll be telling you what we got the baby for Christmas Now we got it. Well, no say this all the time, but Once a week, huh? We did it Possible Like it's so it's and I'm I'm so much fan I did all that I I would and I had no idea what I was right half the time We didn't have video. I couldn't figure out what I was doing. So now I'm fast I can do it quickly and I don't know how I was doing it back then mom. Look at us Yeah, so we'll see but anyhow We once again Thank you for listening to all of baby.

49:41 Josie's adventures, and we will be Back with more fall fun stories, and hopefully we'll have evaluated Little baby Josie and determined that she is the next Stephen Hawking Well, yeah or something like this without wheels without wheels. She's walking now We'll see what happens but thank you very much for sticking with us and we will see you next time Well folks, that's another episode of the gray hair and daycare podcast in the books Thanks very much for tuning in and spending this time with us. We hope it was fun If you enjoyed this week's descent into the madness of dadness Be sure to subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any of our future adventures While you're at it, give us a like and share the cast with your friends on Facebook Instagram Twitter carrier pigeon Whatever you crazy kids are using Have any hilarious parenting stories of your own?

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