A Summer Party, A Handful of Chin Chub and Dad Disappears When The Shots Start : Episode 29 Part 1

Ep 29 Part 1
The Vaccination Fadeaway: Older Dads Avoid Pain! #ParentingMistakes
Welcome back to the "Gray Hair & Daycare" podcast! Older dads Frank (55) and Carlo (56) kick off a new episode from their revamped (and technically challenged!) studio after a long summer break.
In "What Just Happened," Frank confesses a hilarious parenting mistakes moment at the pediatrician's office: actively trying to fade away during Baby Josie's vaccination to ensure she has no negative association with him. This honest fatherhood advice from Gen X dads highlights the constant learning curve of being a dad.
They dive into a brand new "Check Please" segment to update Baby Josie's expenditure account, revealing the surprisingly high cost of raising kids (averaging $500-$700 a month). Frank also shares a story of a recent DIY parenting coach challenge while painting the nursery, admitting that he probably would have quit if it weren't for his daughter. The segment "I Was Wrong" features an expansion on a previous compatibility theory, detailing three markers for a good relationship (horror movies, solo travel, and living on a boat).
Tune in for their thoughts on social media, political violence, and all the recent baby advice and milestones, including Josie's first party, gifts, and the ongoing saga of her changing sleep schedule. It's a hilarious look at dad life with plenty of fatherhood tips and humor in life!
Chapter Markers:
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0:00 - The Pathetic Vaccination Fadeaway (AKA: The Anti-Comforting Dad)
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1:24 - Studio Woes: Ice Packs on the Camera!
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2:48 - Check Please: The Avalanche of Diapers!
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4:32 - The Nursery Painting Project: Frank's Breaking Point
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6:49 - I Was Wrong: The Three Compatibility Questions (Horror, Travel, Boats)
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11:39 - Tiny Homes and RV Retirement Plans
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13:58 - What Just Happened: The Second Round of Shots
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16:32 - Dad's Worst Sound: The Crying You Can't Fix
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18:29 - Starting Solid Foods & Baby Josie's Length
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20:30 - Work/Life Balance: Kelly's Ramp-Up & Carrie's Role
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21:58 - Uncle Mike's Visit: The Fatherly Validation I Needed
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26:50 - The First Family Party: Hedgehogs & Community
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29:35 - New Skill Unlocked: Banging & Double-Chin Grabs
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Fisher-Price Hedgehog: Mentioned as a hit gift for Baby Josie
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I'm ashamed to admit this, but I literally, when they're getting ready to do the shot, and so it's like, there's the baby, there's the nurse who's doing a great job, there's Kelly's right there next to the baby, and I'm actively fading into the distance.
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I don't want her, the last thing I want is for that shot and her to see me.
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I want no association between that stuff and me, and I'm laughing at myself thinking it's just pathetic.
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I'm like, no, we're just going to back away.
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Because you don't want to associate.
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I don't want her to associate anything negative with me.
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Nothing negative.
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Look at your mother.
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Look at your mother and the nurse.
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It's your mother who's doing this to you.
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This is the gray hair and daycare podcast with a combined age of 111 years and a combined IQ right in that same range.
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Your hosts, Frank Sirio and Karlo Russo.
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Welcome back.
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Episode 29.
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Here we are.
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It's been a while since we have recorded.
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It seems like a whole summer.
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Life has been, it's been getting away from us like a runaway train.
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It's really, we've been super busy.
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We've been running around, but we're here and we're ready to catch up.
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In the new studio.
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Yeah.
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You may have noticed it's kind of the same stuff, but a little bit more, little bit, hopefully nicer arrangement.
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We're going to continue to tweak.
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Yeah.
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Some of our camera angles.
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This is clearly not my best side.
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Yes, it is.
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Because I'm looking at this side and it's not working.
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That's fair.
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I'm kidding.
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All your sides are my favorite.
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All eight of them.
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Look, you did a great job.
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I like the depth, the openness.
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We're in a different portion of the- It's a little more, a little warmer, a little more relaxed.
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Um, so we, we hope you, that we, uh, we hope you feel like we're inviting you into our speakeasy.
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And we think we should, it might make everything easier.
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So here we are, as always, I am Frank Serio.
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And for another couple of weeks, I am 55 years old and my little girl, baby Josie is almost six months old.
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I can't believe that I'm talking about her being six months old already.
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It's just insane.
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I walked in today and, uh, like we said, it's been, uh, this summer has been crazy.
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We haven't had a time to get together.
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So it's been a while since I've seen the baby and being on vacation and then working and you being, uh, doing your thing.
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Just the changes I've seen in the baby, it's incredible.
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And she's getting so long and we'll talk about that.
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But, uh, yeah, it's, it's been, it's been crazy.
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Six months is even a, a number right now.
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It seems like we just had the baby.
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It's like a blink of an eye.
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I can't believe six months.
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And it is like my sister Lucille says, whenever she, whenever she comes face to face with, with, with the Lord, she's going to say just one suggestion, make everything that happens in the first year, take two years.
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Right.
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It goes by so fast.
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It's constantly something new.
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And we're going, we'll talk about all of those things as they come up.
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But the first, first, this is something that we have not done in a while.
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We are going to do check, please.
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So for check, please.
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The last time we did this, I can't wait.
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Now today is August 20th.
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Today is the 19th or 20th.
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Yes.
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We don't know.
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August 20th.
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The last time we did this was June 10th.
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Wow.
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June 10th was check, please.
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And the bill at that point of baby, baby Josie's expense account is, was 63, 10, really 71, 63, 10, 71.
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Now since then Kelly wasn't even back to work yet.
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Right.
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So there's been stuff she's needed for the back to work, the finishing of the, the nursery.
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So there's some of that stuff in there.
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And then there is just the usual avalanche of diapers, wet ones, desitin, all those things.
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So, well, so 63, 10, 71 on June 10th, 61, 63, 10, 71.
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I'm historically horrible at this.
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You're getting closer.
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I think I'm going to be off.
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Okay.
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I think I'm going to be off because I'm taking all this time and consideration, but maybe I shouldn't.
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I'm going to say 70, 38, 20, 70, 38, 20.
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Interesting.
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75, 37.
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Even you were, that was pretty, pretty good.
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So you were, you were calling it at like 700.
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It was really more like 12.
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Right.
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Right.
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But 75, 37, I think that's what we're, we're averaging about between 500 and $700 a month.
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It seems.
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So now that I know that information, you can kind of clock in there, there was a lot of stuff.
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It's mostly still Amazon.
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There's a lot more for home Depot.
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Okay.
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The paint was expensive and we're going to have some pictures that we'll share as part of this episode that you'll get to see kind of the mostly finished result, which I'm very happy is over.
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When we moved into our house, my, my cousin, Joey's a painter and I, I like doing all kinds of DIY projects.
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I don't like to paint.
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He painted, he was, he worked full time at my house when we moved in here for five weeks.
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And before you moved in here, you hired my cousin for your other house.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Eddie.
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So, so I have not painted anything in here.
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And I, I did this cause Joey wasn't available.
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And I thought it's just one room.
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And it was, there was a lot of swearing and a lot of, a lot of paint dripped on the hardwood floor that had to be cleaned up, but it's over.
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So there is some, there is some of that.
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Do you feel different because it's for your daughter?
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So now it's like, I did that.
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Yes.
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There was hire somebody.
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I'm going to say four or five.
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That's what I thought.
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I'm like, it's for her going into it.
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And there were four or five times that it had, if it had not been for her, I would have just been like, we're, we're done.
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Yeah.
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It was, it would have been like the casino.
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Exactly.
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Stepping away.
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Kelly was in like, like in the, in the great room, kind of around the corner from where I was working.
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And she would hear me just swearing.
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And, and every once in a while, she's like, did something happen?
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No, I just hate it.
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Just turn into like a 65 year old old school Italian Oh my, I would rather, I would rather wiring hard.
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Like you do the hard work.
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I would, I, I like that stuff to me.
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Painting is nothing.
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Yep.
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No, I hate it.
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It's always messy.
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Love it.
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It's always messy to get perfect lines.
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It's not, I know.
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I mean, it's not forever.
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I'm no more people probably on your end.
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Hey, then I love painting.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, not, not interested in doing any more of that.
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So we're going to, we'll have some pictures later on so we can, we can talk about that.
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And that is check please.
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So now there's one that we have not done in a long time.
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Oh, please tell me what it was.
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The one that we used to do a lot, but because, because our producer has not been watching, I know what this is.
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We haven't had a lot of them, but there was a small one.
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So here we are with, I was wrong.
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So this, I was wrong is really just a, I, I wasn't completely right.
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And I think it was episode 26.
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We talked about, I brought up, there's a, there was a article or something I had read about that said an indicator, the best indicator for whether a couple was compatible was whether or not they let, if they both didn't like, or both liked scary movies, horror movies, things like that.
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I remember like I was saying, you and I are both don't, we don't care about the same, the same with was so the same with me and me and Kelly.
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Okay.
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So, and I ended up stumbling across that same thing and it wasn't just that there were three markers that they said, if you are the same on all three of these, you're going to make it, like you're going to be a good couple.
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So the first one was horror movies.
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If you both, if you are aligned on either, you love them or you don't, that's number one.
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Number two was, would you travel in a foreign country alone?
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Would you do that?
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Would I like it?
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No, I wouldn't like it.
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I would probably do it because I, now that I travel a lot for my life, I, I know you could do it, but you wouldn't choose not at all.
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No.
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And I bet, I bet Trina would say the same thing.
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There's no way she would do it.
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There probably would have been a time in her life.
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She might've, I think, but with certain situations that have gone on, like she would not be good with doing that.
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No, I can say I wouldn't want to do that.
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I wouldn't do it.
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Kelly's the same.
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Yeah.
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Like she would with a group or with a couple traveling somewhere new, but yeah.
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I don't like doing anything alone, actually.
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I want my partner or somebody there.
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Yeah.
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I think that's fair.
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So number one, the horror movie thing.
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Number two.
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So we're, we're two for two on both of our couples.
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The last thing I think is interesting and where as a couple, we might diverge because I might want to do this.
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Okay.
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Would you ever want to live on a boat or a sailboat?
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Live on a sailboat?
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Yeah.
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Right.
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I, I, I don't know how small it would be though.
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It would have to be comfortable.
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I have to be comfortable.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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It has to be crammed into the corner with a blankie.
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I would have to have all the comforts.
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It doesn't have to be top of the line, but I would have to not worry about, Oh, I got to go to the bathroom and go in that comfortable studio apartment size cabin.
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Absolutely.
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I would take that adventure.
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And I know my wife would shoot.
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She would.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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You know, that's where you got now.
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I think I would.
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I do not.
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I do not think Kelly would.
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In fact, we'll ask, this could be the next instance.
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The next episode of I was wrong for the rest of our lives.
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She would, um, just to do it for a while.
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Yes.
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I believe.
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And I'm answering for my wife and I could be wrong too, but I think I, I know we, that adventure, if it was me and her and we had this kind of like, you would want to do it.
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We'll live in there for a And, and I'll tell you, I'll tell you how the closest I got to that and how comfortable it was a couple of years ago, we went on vacation.
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Our Airbnb was a yacht.
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Now you hear, yeah, but that's a yacht is because of a certain size, right?
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Yeah.
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I called the yacht over, but this side of four bedrooms had the kitchen.
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And when I walked in there, I felt like I can't do this for one night.
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It was just, it was weird.
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It looks small.
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It felt small.
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I felt like within like 24 hours, it was, it was great.
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It was like, this is cool.
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So when you asked me that, that's exactly what I thought.
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I'm like, I could do that.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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So yes, that's it.
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So that's interesting.
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Would you do a little house, a tiny home, tiny home, what they're called?
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I don't know if I would want to live with one, live in one all the time, but an RV, you know, you see these people all the time that have like, that's what they do, right?
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They've got jobs where they work remote and they just like go from state park to state park.
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And I kind of like it because they're also nice.
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It's not like, you're not, you know, it's not, they're not awful.
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Sometimes I look at YouTube programs and I see those people that are, Hey, quit my job, sold everything.
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And now I'm living in my van, but they have it all set up with, you know, air conditioning, heating, you know, TV, dishwasher.
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And I go, you know, certain age, of course, right.
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To do it by yourself.
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Right.
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Maybe it's going to be tough, but now everybody has a video.
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So you're really not by yourself because you're kind of, you kind of like pretending like you have all these people with you when you turn the camera on and you do these videos.
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But I look at it and go, that could be fun.
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I feel like I haven't seen anywhere in the world, just this country.
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You've probably seen more of the world.
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There's so many places I've never been to the grand Canyon.
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Like there's all kinds of beautiful places in this country that I, that I would like to see that I haven't.
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And yeah, I think that, that could be cool.
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You know, I think part of my job, part of my job, all my job is to travel.
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So I think I take that.
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I kind of, I scratched that itch and you want to be home.
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Yeah.
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I'm more like, let's get back home because I see so many places that I would have never traveled to.
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Yeah.
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So those were the three questions.
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You're questioning the third one.
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Yeah.
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I think I'm two out of three with, and yeah, I don't know if she, I don't know how excited she would be for that, but knowing Kelly, I think she kind of, she might start off one way.
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Then I think you might go, Hey, and she can be taught.
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I don't know.
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She would probably end up enjoying it.
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Yeah.
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But it's not something that she would ever bring up.
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It would take some convincing, I think, but you never know.
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We'll see if we can get her to watch.
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Let's do that.
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Okay.
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So we got what?
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18 years to wait, but we're homeschooled Josie.
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That's right.
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And then we'll all go on.
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We'll all get this huge like RV and we'll just 60 foot airstream.
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I love the stainless steel.
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I would love to, I would love to do that.
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Let's do it.
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All right.
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You know, our retirement plan.
273
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So that is, that is the latest episode of I was wrong.
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So now we're going to move on to what just happened.
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And there's lots to talk about.
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A lot of things have happened.
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So it's been almost a month, full month.
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So we had our four month follow-up at the pediatrician.
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So basically that all went well.
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Everything was good.
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We got to see, so it was a new doctor.
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She was very nice.
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Had to have the second round of her three vaccines.
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Now this I thought was interesting.
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The nurse who did it, she was smart about it.
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Right.
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When we did the first one, it was her very first vaccinations or first shots.
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It did not go well.
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Right.
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Like she obviously she was crying.
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So now this, but this nurse spent, took a little extra time, got to know her, played with her a little bit, just a few minutes.
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But that little difference, it was like night and day, not the reaction.
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It was the same exact shots.
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The reaction was way, way less.
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The recovery was much quicker.
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She was really like, that is something being a nurse for little kids like that.
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This woman knew what she was doing.
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It was, it was nice.
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And of course the whole time I'm thinking I want zero association.
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I'm ashamed to admit this, but I literally, when they're getting ready to do the shot.
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And so it's like, there's the baby, there's the nurse who's doing a great job.
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Kelly's right there next to the baby.
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And I'm actively fading into the distance.
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I don't want her.
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The last thing I want is for that shot and her to see me.
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I want no association between that stuff and me.
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And I'm laughing at myself thinking it's just pathetic.
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I'm like, no, we're just going to back away.
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Because you don't want to associate.
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I don't want her to associate anything negative with me.
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Nothing negative.
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Look at your mother.
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Look at your mother and the nurse.
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It's your mother who's doing this to you.
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That's funny.
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I was more of, I couldn't handle the pain and seeing the baby in pain.
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I didn't want, you know what I mean?
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I couldn't handle it.
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There is, I mean, and we'll talk about it more as we go through talking about kind of some of the transitions with our caregiver.
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Yeah.
321
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Hearing her, for me, I think the hardest thing is the, like even the vaccination, the vaccination it's gotta happen.
322
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You can't avoid it.
323
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What is killing me even right up until yesterday is when she's crying, I'm home, Carrie's here taking care of the baby.
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And I hear the baby crying and I know I could probably go and solve it, right?
325
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But I can't because she has to get used to, she has to get used to Carrie and she's got to get used to not always being with me and Kelly.
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And that is just so hard to hear, to hear it.
327
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Even if it's in the distance, I'll be on a conference call.
328
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I'll be in my office and I'll hear it in the distance.
329
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And it's just, it's, I have to just hold on to the desk because I just, cause you, I know I could, I could make that end right now.
330
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So it's hard, but anyway, so we had the four month follow-up, she had her second round.
331
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Now we haven't done it yet and it's been over a month since this, but they surprised us with, I didn't think this was going to happen to at least six months, but they said we could start her on soft foods at four months, but we haven't done that.
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And I think we're probably going to wait.
333
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I think Kelly's preference is to keep her on nothing but breastfeeding breast milk for till it till six months.
334
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But they did tell us that they did tell for height.
335
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Yeah.
336
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23rd percentile for weight.
337
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She's very, very long and she's going to be pretty skinny.
338
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And I was around that time when Kelly started back to work at the beginning of June, it was kind of, it was just two, six hour days.
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So she has been ramping up.
340
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So it was just two days a week, six hours a day.
341
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And my, I was at three, but I was the other three days.
342
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So when she was working, I kind of was still off, but then I've ramped up now where I'm really at five, but we're, we'll call it four.
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And over the, over time, Kelly has gone from two sixes to three sixes and then to three eights.
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So now there are longer days and three days a week.
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And she leaves the home.
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And she, yes, she goes, she goes into, she goes into the office, but we have Carrie who comes in and gets here around 9.00 AM.
347
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So usually from like 7.30 in the morning, you know, I, we get up very early.
348
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I start work.
349
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I get through my emails and stuff by 7.30. When Kelly has to get ready, I have the baby from like 7.30 until around nine when Carrie gets here.
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And then my, the rest of my work day continues.
351
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And, and we kind of, we kind of do that and it's working out now thing is like you, you always say, whatever is happening, it just, it's going to change in a couple of weeks.
352
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And that's the because now her naps are kind of starting to consolidate for a couple weeks while we were making those adjustments.
353
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She was ready for her nap at 8.30. So at 7.30, I take her, we'd play, we'd play, do whatever we do a little babble, teach her Italian.
354
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And then by 8.30, she's getting tired.
355
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I put her down for her nap and she would kind of nap.
356
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Carrie would show up at nine.
357
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She'd wake up around 9.20, 9.30 to carry and then we would kind of go through.
358
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She'd have her first bottle at 10.
359
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Well, now that, that nap is starting to move and sometimes it doesn't happen.
360
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Sometimes she wants to eat before the nap.
361
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Right?
362
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So all those things keep evolving, changing.
363
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They are, but the good part was at that point, when we got to three days a week, Carrie was on board, the baby's getting used to her baby.
364
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Josie is, is having fun with Carrie most of the time.
365
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And, and she's taking her bottle like she should, and she's getting her naps generally that was going well.
366
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So really after that, it was around that time that we got into my brother, Mike came to visit.
367
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So every year we do, uh, I missed that whole thing.
368
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You did.
369
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Well, well, cause you, you ended up having to work.
370
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So every year we do two big parties where we invite the extended family at one, usually, you know, sometime after end of July, beginning of August after the fourth, and then another one between Christmas and new years.
371
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And so, and, and a lot of times my brother who lives in Tennessee will come for more often for the summer party because he doesn't want to have this.
372
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He doesn't want to deal with the Syracuse snow.
373
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He's smart enough to stay away.
374
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So, but he came up and he was the last of my siblings to meet the baby.
375
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So it was nice.
376
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Uh, he, he got to come up, he got to meet baby Josie and spend some time with us.
377
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And that's cool.
378
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As I've talked about it, my brother is, I am the youngest of four.
379
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He's the oldest.
380
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So there's 19 years between me and my brother.
381
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It's apparent.
382
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And I always, I think looked, looked up to him more like a dad than a brother.
383
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And so, but it's interesting because through the whole thing, the pregnancy and all that stuff, I kind of, I guess I might've expected a little kind of more advice or guidance or things like, you know, look out for this stuff like that.
384
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Yeah.
385
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And you got this old, you're going to be great.
386
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You're going to be a good dad.
387
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Everything that I said to you, everything, everything that you said.
388
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And it was been funny because I thought maybe, maybe it'll all happen when, you know, when he's here.
389
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And it was the funniest, it's the funniest thing.
390
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So it was none of that, not at all.
391
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I mean, we always, I always enjoy spending time with my brother and we talked, you know, talk about a bunch of different stuff.
392
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And obviously we talked about the baby and how things are going, but there wasn't any, there weren't any of those, those kinds of moments.
393
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And then afterwards he had a conversation with my sister, Paula, and I'm talking to her and she says, yeah, Michael said, how nice it was to see you so happy with the baby.
394
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And I'm like, shouldn't I have told me?
395
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You are my father.
396
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You are dad.
397
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I just got such a kick out of that.
398
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I'm like, so he tells her like, so clearly it registers for him somehow.
399
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Cause I am, I'm, I'm over the moon all the time with this little girl.
400
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So he mentioned him like, and I laughed and she's like, what are you laughing about?
401
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I'm like, well, cause you know, he says that to you, but he might think you have it all together.
402
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And you know, I don't, I mean, I don't, I don't know.
403
00:23:43,980 --> 00:23:46,220
I don't think my brother thinks anybody has it together.
404
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Oh really?
405
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No, not really.
406
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I mean, I don't know.
407
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I think he thinks I'm going to, you know, I'm, I'm going to be a good father.
408
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Obviously not a homeless man that didn't accomplish.
409
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He has to see what he sees.
410
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I don't know.
411
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Yeah, no, I don't, I'm not sure.
412
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Funny thing is I had my father and still do.
413
00:24:03,740 --> 00:24:07,800
And I still look at my older brother as like my parent.
414
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Does, did Pete ever kind of give that on?
415
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Cause he was a little bit ahead.
416
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Like he had the kids before.
417
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Absolutely.
418
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He'll give me advice.
419
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Unsolicited advice.
420
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:17,000
Absolutely.
421
00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:23,300
And he would tell you when you screwed up and he would tell, but we have a different relationship.
422
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,980
I don't think he would do that to Mike.
423
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Right.
424
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:36,640
Cause there's a different rapport there where Pete and I have, you know, we've, we've kind of, we travel through this world together from Italy to Germany, to America, you know?
425
00:24:36,740 --> 00:24:38,820
So we have that, we have that bond.
426
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It's a different kind of connection.
427
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So he, I've always worried about what he was going to think more than mom and dad.
428
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Right.
429
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They did not, they did not never put the fear in me.
430
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Right.
431
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,620
They put the fear in me like my dad's going to beat me.
432
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He'll kill you if you're getting in trouble.
433
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:57,900
I never like, I'm going to disappoint my dad.
434
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Right.
435
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:07,500
But the thought of disappointing my brother, and there's been a couple of times that I won't speak of that I can go right back to my head and still feel very ashamed.
436
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:07,980
Yeah.
437
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That I did.
438
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Yeah.
439
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So yeah.
440
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That's interesting.
441
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So yeah, I was going to ask about that.
442
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Cause I know with Pete, Pete, I could see that with you.
443
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,080
He's my best friend, older brother and parent.
444
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Yep.
445
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,140
On both ends, mommy and dad.
446
00:25:22,420 --> 00:25:27,840
Because again, for people that don't know, I grew up with parents that didn't speak English.
447
00:25:28,220 --> 00:25:32,980
And even though I speak Italian, the older I got, my Italian just got a little worse and worse.
448
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:33,260
Sure.
449
00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:37,740
So translation was harder, especially about feelings when you're a teenager.
450
00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:39,920
Could you imagine conversations?
451
00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:47,260
It's hard enough to talk to your parents, but then put the barrier of maybe I don't know how to say that word.
452
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,660
I don't know how to use that, that, you know, that sentence correctly.
453
00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:54,240
So then you just don't talk about it at all.
454
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:55,660
So yeah.
455
00:25:55,820 --> 00:26:00,840
So, and then Pete was the standard, you know, and he was like, he's going to ask those questions.
456
00:26:01,140 --> 00:26:02,520
So yeah, that's interesting.
457
00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:03,340
So yeah.
458
00:26:03,380 --> 00:26:07,640
So that was, that was kind of a, it was kind of interesting, but it was, it was very nice.
459
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,300
He's here for a few days for the party.
460
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,940
The party was a lot of fun.
461
00:26:11,140 --> 00:26:13,080
It was kind of a different group this time.
462
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:24,400
It was, you know, my usual, my cousins locally, Kelly's family, her brother and his wife came, her cousin, Michelle, and the husband, Jason came.
463
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,020
It was, they're, they're great.
464
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,200
They came with their little girl and yeah.
465
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:39,360
So, so it was them that like usual, but then we invited some, we invited some, some people from, from church that came and father come in.
466
00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:40,480
You said, did he ever make it?
467
00:26:40,540 --> 00:26:43,620
It's funny when I invited him, he's like, well, what time?
468
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,300
And I said, well, you know, we started about one o'clock.
469
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:50,260
He's like, well, I have a, I teach a class at, at one o'clock.
470
00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:53,340
And then I have pre Canaan meetings at two and three.
471
00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:55,040
And then I have four o'clock mass.
472
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,400
I could come after that.
473
00:26:56,420 --> 00:26:57,080
And I said, sure.
474
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:04,740
So at some point or another, I'll basically buy like, man, it was probably getting to be, we started at one o'clock.
475
00:27:04,860 --> 00:27:11,340
It was getting to be about five and somebody was hungry and I didn't want him to have a cold hamburger.
476
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,200
So I'll throw a couple more on the grill.
477
00:27:13,220 --> 00:27:15,540
So I'm all by myself out by the grill.
478
00:27:15,540 --> 00:27:17,640
And I hear a car is like a second round.
479
00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:18,180
Yeah.
480
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,560
Like this is hours later.
481
00:27:19,580 --> 00:27:20,880
Like I cooked everything at one o'clock.
482
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:21,280
Gotcha.
483
00:27:21,420 --> 00:27:25,100
So I'm out on the deck by myself and I'm just cooking like two hamburgers.
484
00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:29,840
So, and I, I turned around and there's father, he showed up and, but he didn't stay.
485
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,640
He's like, I've got a, he had, he got called.
486
00:27:31,740 --> 00:27:34,340
He had to go to the hospital for something, but it was nice.
487
00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:35,640
He did pop in.
488
00:27:35,940 --> 00:27:38,520
So we invited some, some folks from church that came.
489
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,240
We invited some of our friends from the Marina who were very nice.
490
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:43,700
They were, uh, it was nice.
491
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:45,520
Cause there, there's like our boat.
492
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,660
And then the next three boats, there's three couples.
493
00:27:48,860 --> 00:27:50,360
They're all really nice.
494
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,040
And they've been great since we've been on that side of the Marina.
495
00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:57,480
So they, the three, those three couples came, they all brought gifts.
496
00:27:57,580 --> 00:27:58,000
It was nice.
497
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,920
One of them brought, brought this thing.
498
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,320
It has a Fisher price hedgehog.
499
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:10,740
It's like, it looks like a little stuffed hedgehog, but it's kind of blocky and kind of like, it doesn't look like a usual stuff.
500
00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:20,040
But it basically, you press a button on it and it'll play different little songs like nursery Remy songs and it vibrates.
501
00:28:21,380 --> 00:28:26,220
And that thing was an instant, instant hit with, with, with the baby.
502
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,200
She's at the point now where she's starting to sit up more.
503
00:28:29,460 --> 00:28:35,380
So I will take the, the Boppy, the one breastfeeding pillow, I'll put it on the bed.
504
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,860
Like it's a park lounger and put her in it.
505
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:38,900
So she's kind of there.
506
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,640
And then I'd give her that thing.
507
00:28:41,860 --> 00:28:48,060
And it's like, and she'll just, she'll hold it and they hit the button and it vibrates and plays songs and she loves it.
508
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,480
So it's, they brought us to that.
509
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,100
They brought us that, which was really nice.
510
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:54,560
Could you imagine what is going through that little girl's brain?
511
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,160
Like what is all these things that are happening?
512
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,920
My body's moving.
513
00:29:00,180 --> 00:29:01,660
What is this?
514
00:29:01,820 --> 00:29:03,080
Yeah, no, it's crazy.
515
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:05,100
She loves, she loves that.
516
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:05,300
Yeah.
517
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:07,360
The Hedgehog was a big, big hit.
518
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,220
She did really well with, cause it was a lot of people.
519
00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:16,020
I think it ended up being like, it's, you know, 35, maybe all told.
520
00:29:16,060 --> 00:29:16,700
He had a nice day.
521
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,600
So people were outside.
522
00:29:17,780 --> 00:29:18,800
No, it was weird.
523
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:27,840
It was, it was hot enough that like some people went out and ate on the deck, but I had set up a tent and and no one was going outside.
524
00:29:28,340 --> 00:29:29,100
Everybody stayed inside.
525
00:29:29,620 --> 00:29:35,520
It was, it might've been, it was a little hot and it was sunny, but you never know.
526
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:36,300
You never know.
527
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,000
But it was, it was good.
528
00:29:38,140 --> 00:29:42,240
So we had, we had, but you know, very thoughtful gifts from lots of people who came.
529
00:29:42,420 --> 00:29:43,340
We had, it was a nice time.
530
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:52,560
I did feel like with Kelly focused on obviously taking care of the baby, it was harder than it's usually is.
531
00:29:52,580 --> 00:29:53,880
You guys used to be the team doing it.
532
00:29:53,880 --> 00:30:03,520
We were always kind of, we're all kind of floating from group to group and it was much more, it was much harder to check in with everyone.
533
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,480
And it felt like I didn't have enough time with everybody.
534
00:30:08,060 --> 00:30:08,160
Yeah.
535
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,620
But it was, it was really nice.
536
00:30:10,820 --> 00:30:11,300
Yeah.
537
00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:11,880
Yeah.
538
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,200
Or just, you know, people kind of gravitate to their own groups all the time.
539
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,960
So that was, we had that.
540
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:22,400
My brother was here through that kind of that weekend, but we had a nice, nice time.
541
00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:29,500
And then we rolled right into kind of that next transition from three sixes to three eights.
542
00:30:30,220 --> 00:30:46,720
So, so again, that kind of adds on a new dimension of now it's three bottles during the day instead of two because Kelly was getting home about three 30, getting done at three o'clock, getting home at three 30 and it was perfect timing and she could feed the baby.
543
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,020
And that was a, so it was just adjusting to that.
544
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:55,020
And that was also at the time when all of a sudden the naps start moving and changing.
545
00:30:55,220 --> 00:31:01,340
So it's, it is a lot of like, you barely get it figured out.
546
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:07,700
And the next thing, it changes and you're like, okay, what do we, what do we do now?
547
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,820
So we did that.
548
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,560
Things had been getting smoother and smoother.
549
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,320
And then we moved in.
550
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:21,280
Then we just started over that time, especially in the last couple of weeks, there's all these developmental changes.
551
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:30,920
She is just like, it's all of a sudden, it's like she's on, it's like a video game where you unlock new skills, right?
552
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,980
Like it's new levels have been added.
553
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,620
It's crazy.
554
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:33,820
Yeah.
555
00:31:33,820 --> 00:31:39,540
It's like, boom, all of a sudden her facial expression is like, now there's, there's, it's just more complex.
556
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:48,660
She's expressing different, like she, you can see that she's either confused or annoyed or yeah.
557
00:31:48,660 --> 00:31:49,840
You can read her face now.
558
00:31:49,980 --> 00:31:50,180
Yeah.
559
00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:52,900
She's not just the facial expressions are more there.
560
00:31:53,020 --> 00:31:54,780
She's more engaged.
561
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,800
She's, she's interested.
562
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,760
She's looking at things.
563
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,580
She's watching things more critically.
564
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,940
She's interacting with stuff.
565
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:25,380
My, my thing that really nothing has motivated me more to get myself on a diet than the fact that I will be holding her and she will just reach up and grab my, like just grab a handful of double chin and be like, I'm like, Oh, it's horrible.
566
00:32:25,660 --> 00:32:27,000
I just like, Oh my God.
567
00:32:27,140 --> 00:32:36,500
But it's much nicer when she gets, when she gets the beard, like she'll get in there and she'll get, but when it's just, I'm going to, I'm just going to grab, grab your chin.
568
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,560
There's so much landscape there.
569
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:46,180
I gotta remind you about every like nook and cranny because they will find it and squeeze at it.
570
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:46,560
Oh yeah.
571
00:32:47,100 --> 00:33:00,160
Her new thing is when she did it at church the other day, we're at church and she went in the middle of the creed and she almost ripped the glasses off Kelly's face and literally she had to stop her.
572
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,440
But yeah, I remember those days.
573
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:05,040
Thanks again for joining us.
574
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:09,280
We've covered a lot of ground and there's even more to come, but we're going to close for now.
575
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:20,360
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576
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,960
We'll see you next week.
577
00:33:22,660 --> 00:33:26,960
Well folks, that's another episode of the gray hair and daycare podcast in the books.
578
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,900
Thanks very much for tuning in and spending this time with us.
579
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,120
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580
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:38,240
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581
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:46,840
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582
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,040
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583
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:59,700
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584
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,100
We'd love to hear from you.
585
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,460
And now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to bed.








